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Old 04-26-2018, 01:55 AM  
Paul Markham
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Originally Posted by thommy View Post
there arenīt fewer affiliates you moron.
but affiliates are not any more people who do websites.
affiliates today are big media buying companies with a mass of employees.
and true - this guys do not know how to get traffic but they know MUCH better how to convert it.
Arwe they buying traffic that converts at 1-300?



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where did you get this information from ?

the affiliate world shows in berlin, barcelona, bangkok and wherever are shows with thousands of attendees. and yes 1/3 of them is adult.
From visiting shows and what is said on boards.

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why are you nailed on paysites?
yes there are still some bringing money - and I can see even a growth in the past 2 years. but this paysites are just a fraction of what is sold on porn.
So you admit they have gone from being the mainstay of porn to a fraction. What has replaced their sales?

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and yes they do not have much affiliates anymore because even adultwebmasters learned that they can make more money by selling more products and leave the risk on the one who pays for the advertising.

additionally the really big sites have own media buying teams (some of them are HUGE)
they are no longer dependent on direct-affiliates.

in the old times we had in example in the german market like 10.000 who made some money with adult. now we have maybe 500 big ones left. and they make MUCH more as the 10.000 together.

it is a question of going with the market and not against it.
you are not able to go with the market because you do not have skills for it.
but this is what business is. the smart ones survive the dumb ones are crying and wish back the good old times.
this is in every biz like that - and you are the proof.
What big sites are buying Ad spots? Name them as they must be known by their ads. The big sites own porn tubes. Or deal direct with them.

I agree with you about going with the industry, something I did continually through my career, unlike you. I retired because of my health and age with enough to see me out in comfort. Can't stay here long because I have to go for dialysis in a few minutes.

Unlike you and Pseudonymous I give links to where the traffic is. you write a wall of text. My taxi is here. Bye.
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