Originally Posted by Pseudonymous

As far as the numbers the companies I mention are making, until you've seen their numbers, you are simply guessing as to what these companies I mention make. You would be very surprised. They would still be considered very successful 10 years ago. Sadly I can't take all the numbers and make them public and say told you so to all these people on this board who think there is no money to be made but I assure you, for anybody who knows their stuff, there is A LOT. Not in one or two areas either, more.

Blacked launched Blacked not all that long ago. The whole network is new. Also they didn't simply move their members to a new site when they launched a non interracial site as they are very much different customers. So you are wrong. Same goes with nubiles/nubilefilms and their latest sites. These are completely different markets. Is there crossover? Sure. The porn industry is only so big and only so many sites launching stuff. The same porn buyer is going to end up at another site they see promoting where they found the first one.

Small? How many companies are doing it? Sure. That's not because of it not being highly profitable. It's because most people are too unsure about it because they don't have the money to take a shot, they go in and put out feelers and do it half assed and tell themselves if it does well, they'll invest more, thats not how things work. You do it right out of the gate or it wont be successful. No such thing as spend half as much, see half the profit. Don't spend as much, make as good of a product ATLEAST, it will fail. Brands get alot of exposure on tube sites, if you spend 90 percent as much, you get 90 percent of the product and you are now below all the people who do things right and that means your videos aren't being looked at because of the algorithm, you do things better and spend that extra amount, you are now at or above their level and you are pushed to the top, because you are new, you get an even bigger boost and the more youre seen, the more the tubes reward that video/brand. This logic applies to more than just tubes, it's how you treat every single decision and step in building your site/s, marketing material and how you market it. Doing everything right puts you above the rest and the reward for being in the top percentile is very much still extremely lucrative. You're either a nobody or youre a somebody now and this industry that attracted the uneducated men with very little work ethic due to the low cost to startup and the ease in that money was made in years past is weeding out these types. Mainstream entities are coming in and taking over in the software side of things, they would also be taking over in the porn production area as well if they knew how or where to start. Sadly they do not, there is no room for a learning curve anymore, you will fail if you do not know out of the gate

None of the reasons why porn production isn't as rampant relate to how profitable they are when done right.

Anybody can come in and launch a good site and make alot of money, people not in this industry don't know how and the people in it who failed are doing other things and the remaining companies are still launching stuff. The fact you even mention affiliates shows how out of touch you are. Nobody needs or uses affiliates anymore, they're a thing of the past. It's a low cost, low reward feature so you include it but they are no the reason for any site's success these days. It's done via tube exposure and ad purchases (also mainly on tubes)

I know there are people who argue to find out more information than they currently have, a form of playing devils advocate, I hope this is the case here. And you truly are not firm on these opinions.

Though I do believe it's easier for alot of people to have these opinions as it makes it easier for them to cope with not making forward movement in the industry they are in/were in