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Originally Posted by thommy
do you really think that IF there would be a way to spend 30 and make 500 that there would not be another one who pay more?
so NO - i do not sell traffic fro 30 to make 500 because the market rules would not allow that.
an average media buyer has a goal of 20% ROI. and to make that he must be MUCH smarter as his competitor and convert much better.
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So you can't afford to pay what porn paysites used to pay.
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well all my publishers have been affiliates before and guess why they prefer to sell the traffic over my plattform.
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So you can't afford to pay what porn paysites used to pay.
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none of the tubes in my network would buy for that price but some of them buy for 10-20 k each month.
how many pornsites you know who can do that ?
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So you can't afford to pay what porn paysites used to pay.
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i did not get this question - donīt know what you mean here exactly
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It's a very simple question a moron should no the answer to. Tubes couldn't afford to pay $5 a Gigabyte to running their sites.
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for what?
i have publishers making 100 k every month and they do not even know the names of the models in their sites. they also donīt care because they do not sell the models or the content - they sell whatever with it.
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Show us who.
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do you know what "scam" means ?
I think i have the cleanest network in this fucking world.
we sell products and nothing else.
we are just not focused on selling products what are not able to make enough profit
to pay the price we want.
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Not what you sold on the two sites I found. pornhubdeutsch.net/ and xhamsterdeutsch.xyz/.
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your problem is that you see the "porn industry" as those few what are still living of selling porn.
this time has passed 10 years ago already because the market is not big enough to feed 1 million or more paysites.
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That's exactly what I'm talking about. I see the idustry before Tubes could give away porn and sell advertising because B/W was so low. I hope Net Neutrality will raise the price of hosting to a level that kills off Tube sites and bring back the days when porn sites can pay $5,000 for a good BG scene.
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i bought a few of sites what used to make their income with selling pornsites.
i got this sites cheap because the income was a joke.
i changed the advertising material on this sites to just adcodes from my network
and my investment returned within 3 month.
and even the webmasters who sold me this sites have been happy because i paid them between 10 and 15 times the average income from the last 6 month. so more than fair for everybody.
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When leeches can't buy up sites so cheap.
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and yes these are still porn sites with FREE porn content. they are just not focused on selling porn - and the one who can pay most because he makes the best out of the traffic will get the buying power.
so all normal as it is everywhere in the world - in every biz.
if you would be still in the biz or KNOWING what in this biz happens you would also realize that you can not find a booth from pornsites at the bigger exhibitions.
same as they can not afford to buy such a booth they can not afford to buy the traffic .
i do not say that this is either good or bad. it is just a fact. if you like it or not.
people a re free to choose if they want to life in yesterday and suffer or swim with the stream and use the chances the market gives.
i am specialized on the second option and work with people who are doing the same.
if you like that or believe that is not important and i give a flying and diving fuck on it.
so if you think someone needs your apocalypse - i am fine with that.
maybe you can ask eric if he wants to open a cry board here for you and the ones who donīt want to accept that times have changed.
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Agreed today's model suits the bottom feeders. Who wouldn't survive if B/W gets too expensive.
At last, we agree. You are making the only living left for many in porn. The industry has shrunk and selling traffic will never make the money that selling porn used to make. Why didn't you read what I posted from the beginning and agree with me?
Today you buy up cheap content from sites that were once successful and now broke. Should costs of hosting rise to a level that makes free porn to the level that would make Tube sites unprofitable. Those paysites will return.