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Old 02-26-2018, 12:25 AM  
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You have to also remember Thommy that people that buy Adult traffic and are selling products worth hundreds or thousands (cams, dating, pills) are doing so - and paying you $10 a thousand hits - for many more reasons than pure profit. LOL

This is what I love when people, even knowledgeable ones, try to calculate numbers in the porn biz. Adult is NOT "mainstream" (Amazon, Google, Facebook, etc). Porn is filled with questionable revenue sources from questionable countries. YES there are plenty of "legit" companies doing things the right way. But there are ALSO many companies pumping money into a system just so it comes out clean afterwards. Profit is not their motive.

So you factor in that segment - or take it OUT - and the "profits" from buying traffic deflate like a balloon. Congrats to Thommy (and any traffic broker) that can get in on this circle jerk game but it's not a game small-to-mid size companies can (or should) play.
well all MY advertisers want to make profit.
no matter what they are promoting.

the biz model of a tube is not so far from yours. the only difference is that you charge users for the content - on a tube users are paying with their presence and by buying other products - products what might make much more profit as you would be able to make with porn.

fact is that the tubes are part of the porn biz and they are not only existing they are
the market leaders and because of their size they have been able to bring more money into the same market what we call "porn market" because we catch the user with porn.

and that this works is shown from the numbers.
all that revenue companies like exoclick, trafficjunky, ero-advertising, plugrush etc is generating is revenue that the pron industry did not have before.
maybe 20% of this revenues are made with selling porn (and here mostly cams)
and the rest is revenue what was not existing before. but the payouts are going to the same people, competing for the same search engine positions, showing the same kind of content and attracting the same group.

with this old fashioned idea of selling this people only porn we would have lost all this additional revenues what are the BIGGER part of the budget of a PORN USER !!!

so if we can agree that the people who are WATCHING PORN are the ones who give the base for a biz and that everyone who makes money from this users is part of the porn biz
from today we are already at the fact that membersites are the smallest part what is generating revenue into this pot.

if a porn site would be able to sell a user his next car does not mean that it is not a pornsite anymore - it just generates revenue indirectly and with a much broader range of possible products a user can need AWAY FROM PORN.
and if you believe it or not - a porn user (no matter if poor or rich) spends more than 99% of his total budget for other things than porn.

you can very easy calculate that by adding the buying power of each country in the world together, devide it by the number of internet users, estimate that 25% of them are watching porn and compare it to the aproximate revenue of the complete porn industry.

and nothing else than that is the concept and the reason why there is MUCH MORE money made in this days WITH PORN USERS as it was in the good old days.
the one who invented the petroleum lamp is not the lamp industry.
and if petroleum would still only be used fro lamps it would be a very very small biz.
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