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Old 02-22-2018, 02:40 PM  
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Well I agree with most of what you said but I think your views on paysites TODAY are outdated. Perhaps you are applying your experience back then to how it is now.

Of course "big" paysites that want to invest 100K+ in new content will have a tougher time recouping that investment and it may well take years before they do. Piracy is a huge issue if you are sinking that kind of money into content production.

However, there are many ways to skin a cat (and be profitable NOW and in the future). Expectations must be reset, as with everything else. And the scale has to be reduced (from 50+ employees down to a handful). But with automating being much better today it is possible, through scripting and outsourcing, to be very profitable. You just have to adapt (or die).

I am like a Hollywood Agent. I make a % off every Membership I sell. Anywhere from 25% - 100%. So that's why I have so many "clients" (websites) and keep adding new ones. Remember I started this madness in 2009 - when paysites were DYING. So I had to be creative, especially because I had only $750 to start (a loan from a friend!).

The biggest challenge for your clients will be an ever-decreasing ROI, CTR, etc. That is inevitable.
well i had a big membership paysite for more than 12 years and I would not want to do it anymore - even when it made me some good money over the years.

and IF I would do it - I would do it very different from the old days especially in marketing and affiliate stuff.

there are actually a few new membersites on the market what have a good chance to become successful but they are really up to date in marketing stuff and they have the know-how to work with media buyers. yes there are some who run both ways by running CPA or CPL offers for the fast money but they also know that a good revshare product brings more on the very long view. they are mostly just scared because the never know if the company will still exist when this time comes to make the greens.

i still wait for the membership program what is smart enough to see that a porn user is not only good for porn and get money out of users what is normally not seen in our biz.
if someone does that really good he will be maybe even able to give the membership for free because he can afford it from that income.
and what do we have than ? a tube !!!

actually all the big money is there where the content is free because this is the chance to get a lot of users. no matter if we talk about google, facebook, twitter, instagram or the tubes - they have the masses. they do not need to build a niche what will be gone after a while. they just push the button and promote the next hype within a second.
and this is why it is such a huge money machine.
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