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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd
I hear you man, I really do. I understand the profits these days are in pops, cross-sells, cams, dating, etc. My point tho is that paysites are still valueable AND new ones open all the time so there must be a reason for it, right? Paysites are where the majority of content production happens these days. Yes DVDs are still around but most is being shot for paysites.
You can then monetize that content in the way you described. Still, it's not as profitable as cams, dating, etc, and the cost of production is the #1 reason.
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but even here there is a big change since YEARS.
how many amateurs you think have mydirtyhobby alone? 30.000 ?
ll of them are producing content and sell it FIRST where they get the most money.
this is legit and it was legit all the time.
that paulīs idea is wrong you can see on the fact that porn was MUCH MORE interesting when there have not been videos around.
people like thehun sold thousands of memberships each month to picture sites what did not have 1% of the quantity of the hun.
and if you remember that time same as i do - it was not possible to send crap to him.
only the great material had a chance to be listet.
but as i said: THAT was another time with fewer users but MUCH richer and fewer paysites and fewer affiliates.
the question is not how big the cake is - the question is how many mice want to eat it.
i am pretty sure that there still IS a possibility to sell memberships but i did not see a lot of membership sites what even KNOW what a postback is.
but the affilietes of today are mediabuyers not webmasters.
a webmaster is limited on the traffic he have - a media buyer is only limited on his budget.
and if you give them to choose between a possible livetime value of 150 dollar what they can MAYBE get within a few years and a 5 dollar DOI they will chose the DOI because of maths.
the maths is that you can get easier and faster reliable data as when you wait 4 or 5 years to see what you REALLY made at the end.
and also the webmasters what are selling traffic want to make the MOST from it.
and the most they can make with people who are working professional.
it is not hard to understand that a buyer who converts 1:50 on a product can pay more as one who know how to convert this product 1:100.
and as there are more and more professionals what are fighting for the traffic a webmaster who sells it can only win.
biz is not a social thing - it is profit only what makes the rules.
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Now the reason I do not do the ad network thing (or cams, dating, etc) is because it's not creative or interesting to me. It's more mathematical and making click projections etc. Also I see a LOT of ads being nothing more than circle jerk click bait kind of things. Endless circle jerk clicking until it stops somewhere. LOL As a surfer I would hate those ads. 
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this is a question of the philosophy of a network.
most of then are using RTB and CPM and it is hard to make profit with this.
also the new google rules have changed here a lot (what i really appreciate for my part) because CPM is nothing else as to use clickbait banners and because the most advertisers are buying CPM it is not so easy to tell them change the banners.
i mean i never accepted this overdriven stressy stuff anyway and an advertiser will also not make money with this crap on an CPC network because clicks are too expensive to make them to accident clicks.
I think we will see some nice changes in this year in the direction of more quality advertising and more sales from it. I can see it already.
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Anyway, bottom line is if you run a profitable business in Adult in 2018 (as both Thommy and I do, in our own unique ways) then God bless us. LOL 
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well but you will never run a successful business if you do not know what happens around you and have to view into tomorrow.
unfortunately there was a time when it was too easy - we still suffer on that because with just professional competitors the whole market would be monetized already MUCH better as it was in the past.
I am looking forward to the future and i hope you can also make money in it. I love seeing people make money because if it is done without ripping someone off it helps us all.