Originally Posted by thommy

completely wrong !
I do not poo-poo them but they are just a small part of the revenue made today and also just a very little part of what people need.
and it was always like that - not since now.

when pornsites started we really did not have other choices as to sell porn with them.
so we got exactly this part of a humans budget (what was and still is 0,28% of his total budget).

I would REALLY appreciate to see at least a few more membership sites in this game but unfortunately they are stuck in yesterday.



i have a few good friend what are producers since long long time.
they are still producing for the DVD and pay TV market but they are also selling their older productions or out cut szenes to tubes.

All of them are really happy to have this customers because they are buying cheap but A LOT. and as no one wants the material exclusive there are MANY buyers for this content.

I personally know not one tube site owner what would even talk about less than 2000 or 3000 szenes per buy.



THIS is happening !
why do you think all those amateur models giving free content to tubes ?
WHY do you think most of the paysites give tons of free content to tubes and some of them are even willing TO PAY when they show up on tubes ?

I do not say that paysites don´t have the right to exist and i do not say that there is no market anymore. I just say that this market is only a very small fraction of the income
what is made WITH porn and not with SELLING porn.



because it is MUCH cheaper as it was before.
I was running ONE paysite for more than 12 years.
in the good times we made like 200 k revenue per month with this site but the
costs, including affiliate comissions, servers, administration, technique and content
have been around 180 k.

if i would so the same today the costs would be maybe at 100 k.

so yes it is possible to even own a network of paysites where each one have 50 paying customers and there would be still some money to make - even when it is not much.



don´t underestimate that. it is not the DVD market - this was never a really big thing for the producers. they make the most money with rights. pay TV and porn cinema.
do you know how many porn cinemas exist only in India?
to sell rights for porn cinema to india is like a win in the lottery - even when the single licence is less than 1 dollar per movie and cinema but there are like 50 thousand of them only in india.



but this is exactly what i do - i go along with the desires of the consumer.
he can decide where he clicks and what product he is interested in.

and the market itself will regulate it because the one who can make the BEST result with the traffic is the one who can pay the BEST price.

why should i sell traffic for 0,1 cent per click JUST BECAUSE the buyer is unable to make more out of it when I have a buyer who can pay 50 times more because he IS profitable.

there is no argument against success - the market will always move to the more profitable solution - it was never different in the history of the world.

war movies are also not produced to sell tanks and IF THAT would be the reason to produce them they would not be produced.

science fiction movies are not produced for the SF chanel because the SF chanel would not be able to keep Spielberg alive.

just open your TV and watch whatever movie there and look how many % of the advertisement there have anything to do with the movie.

it is NOT that i hate paysites - but i am a realist. i do not spend my time with trying to change facts. I go along with them and make money.