Originally Posted by crucifissio

yes this is odd to say the least...

there is one physical sport where doping is actually counter productive, brazilian jiu jitsu...blood viscosity is increased and you can not grip your opponent because your forearms get so pumped that you lose grip power...also you get winded much faster and this is very bad in a fight...in grappling (no gi BJJ) it is productive but in BJJ you are pretty much fucked if you dope