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Originally posted by jas1552
Yes I realize that and agree. Of course people shouldn't torture animals needlessly or kill off entire species. My main points there were that it's no more wrong for animals to kill for food that it is for humans to kill for food, and to illustrate the absurdity of giving animals equal rights with humans.
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mate, I drag fish kicking and screaming for their lives out of the ocean embedded on hooks and sometimes have to snap their necks.. when i was younger we used to butcher our own chickens.. I agree with you here, of course it's ok for humans to kill animals for food. If I could get fish to magically levitate painlessly straight into my bucket out of the water, believe me I would be a happier man
to me it's about unecessary cruelty.
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Originally posted by jas1552
I disagree there. I think they do more harm than good to their cause by (in the minds of many) destroying the credibility of the animal rights argument. People begin to think of anybody who talks about the humane treatment of animals and saving endangered species as a bunch of nutty extremist peta types.
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actually I kind of see it as totally normalised.. who doesn't want to save the earth or stop baby seals from being killed with clubs? Aside from reactionaries out for a response of course..
yeah they do a lot of harm to their cause.. which is why a lot of them need a good slapping, but it's because of them that great swathes of society now are aware and disgusted of the ways animals are treated etc.. I mean you know that they're not helping themselves, but you forget or don't notice that the normal guy or girl working the 9-5 in an office now has a mild opinion on the subject and has been affected by them.. the tv commercials, print advertising and popular magazine editorials help where "dreadlocked and pierced" they fail themselves.