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Old 02-15-2018, 01:51 PM  
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I don't think you're "wrong".

But you have to realize that the United States is based on the constitution.

It's a right to own guns. The 2nd amendment specifically says that Congress shall make no law restricting that.

I think that all of this loophole b.s. trying to make "gun control" laws is unconstitutional and leads to the govt. having more control over people...for instance, declaring that a citizen is crazy and institutionalizing them against their will (which is being openly discussed on CNN "panels").

Our founding fathers had the wisdom to create mechanisms to change the Constitution.
Congress has done it before.
For instance...they created the 16th amendment to legalize income tax (they didn't even hesitate on that one lol)

They have the power to begin the process to repeal the 2nd amendment.
Once that amendment is repealed...then all the arguments stop.

But they don't have the balls to do it.

And of course the NRA and companies that make guns are going to lobby against that and do their best to sway any decision.
That's what they SHOULD do. It's their 1st amendment right. And I don't blame them at all.

But repealing the 2nd amendment is truly the only way to disarm citizens.

You can't have "rights" and then just decide to take them away because we are upset over this horrible incident.

What's needed is thoughtful action to legally CHANGE that "right" to fit in with a society that now has no regard for human life.
I agree in spirit with what you are saying Robbie. I too think the 2nd Amendment should be repealed - but then a NEW Amendment (whatever # we are up to) to allow gun ownership but under very strict guidelines. This way we preserve the integrity of the Constitution and get what we both want (I think).

But as to the "integrity of the Constitution" (to humbly quote myself): What about the 4th Amendment? The 5th? Even the 1st? "Freedom zones"? What the FUCK are those? And why do people go along with them and get herded into them like sheeple instead of demanding their 1st Amendment Rights to congregate and protest wherever the fuck they feel like it? (OK as long as they aren't hurting anyone or obstructing daily life activities.)

"You can have 'freedom of speech' but only in this restricted pen over here. Now get in the cage and wave your little signs." ????? So it seems to me Gov't picks and chooses what part of the Constitution they like and suits their agendas and which parts they don't like. Kinda like The Bible. LOL
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