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Old 09-26-2017, 11:38 AM  
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Originally Posted by Paul Markham View Post
Read this. https://www.newstatesman.com/world/e...-right-parties

And check out this. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ties_in_Europe

Ignore them at your peril. I am afraid they will grow because of the stupidity of our leaders.

The 1930s Depression did more to create the Nazi Party than anything else. Germany had it very tough after its leaders had started a war that cost millions of lives, devastated the country and left most Germans worse off. But there were Far Right parties all over Europe. Spain, Italy, UK, Austria, Greece and more. The reasons were the lack of jobs, people started to look for solutions. With unemployment, low wages, poverty growing in Europe will history repeat itself?

There's a lot of poverty in Europe, this will educate you. https://www.google.co.uk/search?dcr=....0.Ihvb35D1-cg

Even mainstream EU countries are suffering. Spain, Portugal, Italy, Eire, UK etc all have a lot of unemployed and low-wage earners who struggle to get out of the poverty trap. When they get the chance to apply for a job, too many foreigners are there competing at a lower wage to take the job. They are excellent targets for the Far Right.

paul you say you are afraid that they grow - i am afraid too.
but what you do not see is that your are singing their songs already.

i also do not doubt that there IS a problem but i want to tell you want makes me crazy in the discussion:

1. everybody talks about illegal immigrants in germany. if you look on the map you see that germany is not even able to let ANY immigrants into europe. germany is not a border to the non EU it is in the middle.

2. if you know the schengen contracts, you should know that everyone who entered the EU can move and travel inside the EU wherever he wants. same when i enter USA in california, nobody will ask me a new visa in florida.

what happend here was that all this refugees came to italy, greece, hungary and also to turkey. all of them send them directly or indirectly to germany (letīs exept here italy what have done much more as they can).
italy was cryiung for help, greece was in a very bad economic situation but we have the human mandatory to help these people what are fleeing from war and are in danger.

so germany took them in the hope that the rest of the EU will do the same. IF that would happen, there would not be a big problem now because they would be distrubuted over all EU.

BECAUSE nobody let them in except this few countries there where such a mass comming inside suddenly that nobody was even prepared to register them.
it took more than a year for Geramyn to install this infrastructure and in this time there came a lot of illegal in.
but that does NOT MEAN that anybody wanted them. also merkel did not want them
but HOW can you approve that from a million if a country is only prepared to take a few thousand per year.

3. this problem was used by the right wing parties and putins internet army to stir people up. 90% of the news are either fakenews or are half true (where the nessecary part to understand it was simply forgotten to tell).

4. if you look at the criminal statistic in germany the crimes AGAINST refugees and immigrants (and even germans with immigrant hoistory) are 20 times higher as the crimes from this group.
in fact near to 65% of their so called "crimes" go against the right of residence.
so they are not criminal because they damaged something or hurt someone, they are stamped as criminals BECAUSE they did not go the legal way.

5. if you read this fake thread here where they posted a video where "2 polish hit a black man in Ravensburg Germany" you can see what these right radicals are thinking.

a. in this video is NO background of what happend before and WHY they hit him
b. this video is definately not made in Germany, Switzerland or Austria

so all facts are either lies or uncomplete and all they do is apploud to the video and call the Germans stupid.

THESE are the people whose thoughts you share !!!

people who are refusing EVERY news when it does not fit into their nazi ego.

do you REALLY THINK that such individuals have the better solutions?

if yes - why did your country fight against hitler? he would do it EXACTLY this way and simply kill everybody who is not with him.

national pride - a very hard discussed topic here too - is exactly what lead to 2 worldwars and many many cruels in the world. it is time to give it up to think that we are better than others and start to resolve the problems at their roots.

you can think about that or not - but if you refuse this recommendation you are one part of this roots where you just said that you are afraid of them.
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