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Originally Posted by klinton
nothing against Syrians here... [also there is no social welfare there + nobody wants to come there (except desperated Ukrs, for them Poland is like paradise these days lol)...get salary of 600-700 euros and pay the rent of 400-500 ?..unless you live in few people in a flat]...
The only people that win in such situation are those that were already rich, ie: have flats for rent, have some business to employ cheap labour. If you dont have that you are competing with Ukrainians in rent market (in Poland there was always shortage of flats to rent, now is even worse) and - even worse, if you dont have qualifications - in jobs market (cheaper labour for the most dullin tasks).
basically the same like in UK with Poles, Romanians and so on
thats why Im in Ukraine now, enjoing 1 usd to 26 uah  shitty weather though, dont have time this year to go to somewhere on the black coast like Nikolayev or whatever...too far, i would have to go by romania as roads in ukr in that parts are only good for horses... |
nobody wants to come there (except desperated Ukrs, for them Poland is like paradise these days lol)
It's too simple to put it that way. No paradise in Poland, it's better due to Poland being a EU country, but I agree that low income jobs seekers get paid better than in Ukraine. Many share flats and send money back to Ukraine.
But speaking of IT it's not that easy to compare, with the Polish tax rate IT jobs for mid level and seniors pays less. Many come back or seek jobs in Germany. For many staying in Poland a European way of having things around might not look that nice, they lose their feelings of importance and becoming an average European at times make them miserable. But those who can accept the change it opens new ways in the future.
The only people that win in such situation are those that were already rich, ie: have flats for rent, have some business to employ cheap labour.
I spent more than 5 years in EU, with the prices that low in UA I could have bought another apartment in Kiev if I had stayed. I spent a month in Kiev this August, it was cheap, right, but it fades away fairly quick and harsh reality slams in. Basically, if we talk about low profile life it's cheaper in Ukraine but living a EU style costs more than in EU.
to go to somewhere on the black coast like Nikolayev or whatever.
Shithole lover? LOL, Every time i used to go to Crimea i was driving thru that town not making a stop. Fuck it. As of now I strongly believe even Odessa is fucked. I'd say Chernovtsy and Lviv are those to visit and stay in Ukraine.