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Old 08-25-2017, 12:09 PM  
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Hi Paul,

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Taxpayers paying for the Wall would be a win for those taxpayers.
No dude sorry, this is completely wrong. The wall is expected to cost over $20 Billion dollars, and several billion to maintain after that. There is nothing to gain in this investment.


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Ridding the US of millions of low-paid workers, some not paying taxes.
There are lots of problems with this statement.

"Low paid" means cheap produce at the grocery store. If people were paid a fair wage for picking strawberries, the cost of strawberries would skyrocket, along with the rest of fresh food.

And since they are "low paid", how do you expect them to pay taxes?

The problem is made even more complex for other reasons. Most people don't want to work picking strawberries or similar for example.

Some people want to blame immigrants for all kinds of problems, real or perceived, but the truth is that they also need those immigrants to do this kind of work. As broken and fucked-up as it is, the system kinda sorta works.

What Trump did during his campaign is demonize immigrants, especially Mexicans. Stiring up fear and hatred in anyone who is "other", is a great way to win elections it seems. Trumps promise to "build a wall" between "us and them", was a brilliant, but hateful and flawed idea. Of course the wall would never and should never be constructed. His voters never knew this, but the rest of the world sure did.

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Would force a rise in wages,
and higher prices for American food, making imported food more interesting, and driving more farms out of business.

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a drop in unemployment
Exactly how big is that drop?

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and remove millions of Americans from low-wage and unemployment.
Or, just the opposite.
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