View Single Post
Old 08-09-2017, 12:24 PM  
kane
Too lazy to set a custom title
 
kane's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: portland, OR
Posts: 20,684
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheSquealer View Post
Diplomacy may have worked better?

How has diplomacy worked with them over the last 1/2 century to prevent us to getting to this exact moment? It hasn't. How effective was the IAEA and inspections? They weren't. How have sanctions worked? They haven't. At what point did they ever stop threatening Japan, the USA and Korea with an attack? They haven't.

How has their position that they are still locked in a deadly war with the USA and South Korea as a means to justify its insane military, its relentless propaganda, the oppression of the people and its military spending at the direct expense of its people, starving them to death changed in the last 1/2 century? It hasn't.

Do you remember them threatening that if the USA cut off medicine, food and oil in the face of their own belligerence, violation of UN sanctions, violations of treaties and threats of war - that would be also considered an act of war? I do.

it's so odd that people can be so weirdly naive about the problem - one that's been only getting worse for many decades. And one where N Korea continually ignores its treaties, ignores the UN, ignores international law etc all while threatening everyone around them to get them to blackmail them into cowering and backing down and then giving them oil, financial, food and medical aid

it's even odder that people find it acceptable that a country that has been so openly belligerent and hostile and who have NEVER, EVER stopped threatening war since the 50s can now point a working nuke at Seoul or Tokyo or Hawaii etc. or sell a nuke to ISIS and not take that very very seriously.

N Korea is a cancer. It's always been a cancer. ou can only ignore the spread of that cancer for so long before its going to have to be removed.
I am of the opinion that we need to make 100% certain that we have exhausted all other means before we carry out a military strike. Obviously, if we are in imminent danger that is a different situation. What I don't want to see is Trump deciding, like Bush did with Iraq, that this is a good time for us to strike and take them out, potentially causing chaos and massive loss of life where there may have been other ways forward.

I'm not an expert on what has or has not been done with NK and what could potentially still be done, but I think we owe it to ourselves and those who could be dramatically affected by our actions, to make certain we exhaust all options before turning to a military strike.
kane is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote