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Ketadream · 08-15-2003, 03:14 AM

goBigtime...

Thanks for seeing a bit past the Acacia situation into where some of the real merits of the system; anyway quoting from both the website and the follow up post is a bit misleading as the website discusses features that are optional to the entire package and may or may not cause the solution to fall further into Acacia?s coverage.

Let me address your questions though.

[i]- First, the Acacia patents specifically mention that the receiving device has end-user controls to influence the playback of the media. Our solution does not.
This doesn't sound very good?... you hit play and it plays all the way through? No stopping or going back? Ugh.[i]

We can add full control into the system as desired by the customer, but we feel that this is one of Acacia?s key points to there patent claim and one of our points where we can create a system that does not infringe on there technology. The end decision to use these controls will be up to the customer purchasing the encoding package. Of course basic start stop is enabled as a function of the program itself.

[i]- Our system does not allow for the media to be stored on the recipient?s
computer.
Cache = stored, if someone REALLY wanted to, they could play it back no? Is it in downloaded to the browser cache?[i]

Yes if someone really wanted to they could, you could set up a secondary recording program and record the output (which is far out of the reach to do this properly of the averge computer user). The key point in my example though is that our system is not designed to allow the user to play back at there leisure which again is another key point to the Acacia patent. The system does not store. Now I am sure that there are ways around our protections, just as there are ways around anything but our goal was to design a system that in its normal usage did not infringe on the patent and created more difficulty in stealing and distributing this content untraced.

We can though prevent it from hitting the cache...thats easy

[i]- Otherwise, our system is essentially the same as transmitting data of any type from one computer to another through digitization (1's and 0's) and TCP/IP. Acacia holds the patents for neither.
...and allows for file size to be at least 40% smaller than currently available QuickTime, MPEG, Real Media, or Windows Media solutions.[i]

Two answers taken out of context for 2 different situations (which gives me a question to research tomorrow when they diagram the compression do they speak of on the fly compression something to look into might be another needle to stick into them). To answer your question yes this is compression as a matter of fact our system is re-compressing compressed data. But Acacia does not have claim on compressing data and decoding it on delivery they outline a very vague outline of a process to deliver media.

This is one of the reasons that we are donating to the IMPA. We also believe that there patent infringes on a number of pre existing pieces of work? (see Paul Mace?s .GL system, which dates back prior to 88)

08-15-2003, 03:14 AM
Ketadream Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Austin Posts: 1,373	goBigtime... Thanks for seeing a bit past the Acacia situation into where some of the real merits of the system; anyway quoting from both the website and the follow up post is a bit misleading as the website discusses features that are optional to the entire package and may or may not cause the solution to fall further into Acacia?s coverage. Let me address your questions though. [i]- First, the Acacia patents specifically mention that the receiving device has end-user controls to influence the playback of the media. Our solution does not. This doesn't sound very good?... you hit play and it plays all the way through? No stopping or going back? Ugh.[i] We can add full control into the system as desired by the customer, but we feel that this is one of Acacia?s key points to there patent claim and one of our points where we can create a system that does not infringe on there technology. The end decision to use these controls will be up to the customer purchasing the encoding package. Of course basic start stop is enabled as a function of the program itself. [i]- Our system does not allow for the media to be stored on the recipient?s computer. Cache = stored, if someone REALLY wanted to, they could play it back no? Is it in downloaded to the browser cache?[i] Yes if someone really wanted to they could, you could set up a secondary recording program and record the output (which is far out of the reach to do this properly of the averge computer user). The key point in my example though is that our system is not designed to allow the user to play back at there leisure which again is another key point to the Acacia patent. The system does not store. Now I am sure that there are ways around our protections, just as there are ways around anything but our goal was to design a system that in its normal usage did not infringe on the patent and created more difficulty in stealing and distributing this content untraced. We can though prevent it from hitting the cache...thats easy [i]- Otherwise, our system is essentially the same as transmitting data of any type from one computer to another through digitization (1's and 0's) and TCP/IP. Acacia holds the patents for neither. ...and allows for file size to be at least 40% smaller than currently available QuickTime, MPEG, Real Media, or Windows Media solutions.[i] Two answers taken out of context for 2 different situations (which gives me a question to research tomorrow when they diagram the compression do they speak of on the fly compression something to look into might be another needle to stick into them). To answer your question yes this is compression as a matter of fact our system is re-compressing compressed data. But Acacia does not have claim on compressing data and decoding it on delivery they outline a very vague outline of a process to deliver media. This is one of the reasons that we are donating to the IMPA. We also believe that there patent infringes on a number of pre existing pieces of work? (see Paul Mace?s .GL system, which dates back prior to 88) __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60. Last edited by Ketadream; 08-15-2003 at 03:32 AM..