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Old 07-08-2017, 04:27 AM  
Paul Markham
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Originally Posted by Jel View Post
to be fair, many on the left tar me as a racist for the same thinking as you, because I voted brexit (which was for the reasons wehateporn stated, my actual vote decision didn't include the immigration issue at all, except that this was a far bigger issue than simply 'immigration!'). Only the loudmouths & idiotic think that all the poles will be sent home, or such nonsense, because of brexit. Unfortunately, loudmouths on the other side think that everyone who voted brexit did so because they wanted all the poles sent home
For me, migration is a numbers and culture issue.

Numbers. The West can't properly support the people it had in 2000. Let along what it has now. Let alone what it will have in 2050.

Culture. This is a far bigger threat. Should we allow people into the West who don't share our values? And please they don't share our values unless you can make a very good case for that.

Under the EU house prices have risen to the level where only the rich can afford them. Decent paying jobs are on the decline. Trade outside the EU is hampered by being inside the EU and yet Third World Nations are able to trade under WTO rules with the cost of labour negating trade tariffs and then some. The average man has become poorer by EU rules and continues to get poorer. It's great if you own a big business, sucks if you're looking for a job.

Above all, it's a politician's wet dream and a nightmare for most. All it would take is a trade agreement between European Nations.
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