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M4tt: Suggesting that porn is degrading to women is degrading to women. Adult women can freely choose to make porn, view porn, hate porn, love porn, whatever, and they can choose to make porn that they do not feel is degrading to them.
My issue is not with what adults do consenually.
My issue is with people that use porn as a vehicle of retribution and a place to "legitimize" their tortured psyches.
Also... Max Hardcore and Extreme Associates could survive the "Miller Test" since they do try to create "literary and artistic" values in their work... but Dirty's stuff is a stretch to explain where it has any intrinsic value besides the value of him being able to indulge his whims on hired models.
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