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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam
I understand dying in service to your country is dying. Dead is dead.
The United States has not won a war since WWII.
We 'won' some minor skirmishes like Grenada -- my cousin was one of the medical students held hostage.
We did not win the "peace" in North Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan and now Syria.
If you think Korea War 2 will be decisive -- why? Sure, the USA has the military might to blow North Korea off the face of the earth. Do you expect China and Russia to congratulate us?
If China and Russia who are bordering countries and stakeholders in the issue agree to act with the USA in unison we could all finish this without a shot being fired -- absolute embargo with the exception of minimal humanitarian aide.
The USA shooting unarmed Minuteman III missiles into target ranges 4,000 miles into the Pacific is just as antagonizing as Fat Boy shooting unarmed missiles into the Pacific threating the territory of other Asian nations.
This is just stupidity at its finest.
Not this shit again ... |
You are wrong. We have won wars.
Saddam's military was defeated, and their government removed. The government we put in place is still running the country. The war is over.
The Taliban have been removed from power, and have been replaced by our government. At this point the Taliban is no longer an effective fighting force, and all they are capable of is random terrorist attacks against soft targets. This is less of a military action and more of a police action at this point.
We are not engaged in war against Syria. We are bombing ISIS, and this includes ISIS in Syria, but this is being handled by the Syrians, the Russians, the Iranians (oddly enough), and the Iraqis. This is not our fight and we are on the sidelines.
The problem with modern day warfare is that are afraid to commit fully. During World War II we were fully committed. We had no issues bombing and destroying entire cities. We would kill fifty thousand civilians in a single bombing and no one gave it a second thought. When Germany and Japan surrendered, the population was utterly done with the war. They were done with living in bombed out ruins and starving. As horrible as this sounds, this is how war needs to be waged. Until we are willing to do this to another country, there will continue to be resistance against a new government. There always will be unless they are faced with complete and utter destruction.
Also, in Vietnam.... We never lost a single battle. Not once. The Tet Offensive was considered the turning point in the war, but not because they won. It was a stunning defeat really. It was the turning point because that was when the US public and the US government decided to walk away. With Vietnam we never went in 100%.