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Old 03-02-2017, 11:29 PM  
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Originally Posted by Rochard View Post
I disagree. Did the Russians go to the Democratic convention and have secret meetings with Clinton?

Why is it that there are twenty-seven members of the Armed Forces Committee, yet only one of them meet with the Russian government, behind closed doors, and why wasn't the State Department involved?

If there is nothing wrong with the Trump campaign meeting with Russian agents, why did Flynn resign? Why did Sessions lie about it under oath? Why are they hiding all of this?

If this is perfectly normal, why didn't the Trump administration come out and say "Well of course we met with the Russians. Every campaign does".
Yes, the Russians met with Sen. Obama during the 2008 campaign before he was even the Democrat nominee. He even sent his people to Moscow. And as I already told you over and over...EVERY Presidential candidate starts talking to important countries setting up their plans. Pres. Obama even did a "world tour" of meetings with leaders from all over the world while he was campaigning for President. Remember?

I didn't think it was "wrong" of him to do it. Because it's not. It's smart. Why on Earth why wouldn't he prepare for a job he was campaigning to get. Sen. Obama had no experience at all. He was a Junior Senator first term of only 2 years. He had no experience talking to world leaders...far less than Trump has had working with countries worldwide since the 1970's.

Anyway, I'm just trying to point that out to you.

You don't like Trump. So therefore anything and everything is suspect to you. I understand that.
The establishment and the media are downright threatened by him. They don't want to lose their power and money.
I understand that.

You should too.

And "no", the State Dept. is not "involved" with meetings of Senators. A U.S. Senator far outranks any State Dept. official in our political system.

How do you think that John McCain is able to just go to Syria like he has done over the past few years to meet with "rebels" (turns out they were ISIS)?
How do you think former President Jimmy Carter has interjected himself in foreign affairs and even monitored other countries elections for them?

It's not "illegal" to talk to anybody Rochard.

It would be "illegal" if Jimmy Carter were to tell a foreign govt. classified information. But discussing things? Nope.
And it wasn't "illegal" when Pres. Obama did it in 2008 either.

Dude...this is politics. Plain and simple. And the Democrats are out for blood. They were embarrassed in the election and are intent on doing everything they can to take Trump down.

I get it. It's just annoying to me that our country has a chance to turn things around, and instead the establishment wants to throw a monkey wrench in it.
I think the Republicans are shit. And the Democrats are now proving they are shit as well.

Trump is neither. But boy...the Democrats are doing a great job at pushing him towards the right wingers. And they are eager to draw him in.
If the Democrats were smart (which they aren't), they would work with Trump and I believe they could get most anything they wanted from him as far as policy goes.

But their quest for power is getting in the way.
And I really believe they are hurting themselves even more when the 2018 elections come.
But maybe then...maybe...the Democrats will change course and start being the representatives of the working man like they used to be.
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