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Old 12-09-2016, 09:32 AM  
beerptrol
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Originally Posted by brassmonkey View Post
you have access to government data? they didnt start here. 18th street and ms13 had beef b4 they came to the usa. I know that for a fact! they been cooking meth for a long time on that side. One of the mayors in el salvador is ms13
Everything I have read have stated both gangs started in Los Angeles and when various members were deported they set up shop in central america
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