Whoa.. who's ass exploded in here?
Ok, this thread, within one post, went completely off topic. There are several separate issues being presented here, few of which have anything to do with our client notice.
Centurion: Pswbilling is as full of shit and total liars as both globill & websitebilling were! (...long story short...)
Only time will tell.. you certainly have one upped us on the slander-o-meter.
Regarding the CBs, unfortunately Visa/MC doesn't look at seven month blocks of orders, and while we do agree the situation could have been handled better, it has nothing to do with our client notice.
Jact: I love how they always issue these bullshit emails right before they close up shop and aren't available for a few days.
Shop is open. We are available, live and in person booth 804/806, or feel free to call. From the emails we've received it seems most clients like to receive information as soon as we have it to give.
AcidMix: So you're saying they froze the funds to afford their trip to internext? HAHAHHA
As anyone at internext knows, the majority of expenses are paid long in advance.
Lenny2: Maybe we should start threads whenver nothing changes at our processor or they don't go out of business.
It wouldn't be nearly as much fun.
Centurion: That's got to be **ME**!!
Unfortunately not, though you're getting there. ;) Honestly though, you appear to have some legitimate concerns which are being looked into per your second post. Third post went in a PSW keepsake.
tonkagunner: It is sad to see another one go. I wonder how many more Visa/Mastercard has to go.
It's happy then, knowing that another one didn't go and won't be going. Each company went out of business for their very own specific reasons. We have our very own specific reasons for continuing on, keeping our clients in the loop, and addressing rumors regardless of how bad they seem to get.
rowan: ...I lost $500 and all my Visa rebills.
It was extremely regrettable that Visa put the rules in place that caused all companies outside the US or EU regions (billing with any agent) to lose their transactions.
Centurion: And their e-checks would be "temporarily" offline
Yeah.. damn that "temporarily" term anyway. Suppose e-checks is better to be down then the more pertinent projects that visa/mc have us focusing on. That said, e-checks will be temporarily offline for a bit longer. Please consider a specialized check company, such as electracash, in the meantime.
gothweb: If I remember correctly, an announcement like this usually marks the beginning of the end for any biller.
If those that went out of business are any example, you're right. We were aware of the similarity before we drafted the notice but there was no clear way to differentiate when we're being honest (though others may not have been so).
ckm: They must have needed money bad if they froze your account over 2 chargebacks from 10 sales... That is a way too small of a sampling.
Actually, thinking logically, that wouldn't be worth the trouble. I will be checking why exactly Centurion's account was handled the way it was.
Boobmaster: If a user committs fraud and the processor is too careless to catch it, why should the client get stiffed?
Modern scrubbing methods catch most detectable fraud. However friendly fraud (the user crediting or charging back after a legitimate purchase) is the fault of the consumer and ends up being a cost of doing business.
Driven: I don't think they will go out of business or that they are over the 1 percent chargeback ratio. ope they bounce back I'm sure they will.
Who da man? YOU DA MAN. Actually, driven, I think you're too nice for GFY.
TaDoW: In other news... dormbucks
Fascinatingly blatant spam post. Go get em!
OzMedia: Oh well, thats probably more of my money gone. Who gives a fuck anymore ? I don't.
It's coming. Believe me, if we were done we wouldn't be exhibiting, sending notices, or subjecting ourselves directly to Centurions breath of fire.
Indeed: psw, acpay, globill are all the same ...bullshiters
We're different. We're still here. But the bullshit does come out sometimes when we have to address bullshit rumors.. can't help ourselves.
Hooper: we use them as a backup processor and I feel confident that they will pay us on time as they have for several years.
You'll get yours.. buddy! ;)
Darren: THey have roughly 250k of mine on payments due out to me not counting reserves.
Well, technically our bank does, but when we do we'll pass it on to you. ;)
Webby: This is getting to be a joke!
Everything but our notice may just be one.
Vivaldi: I don't think that PSW is already out, but I guess they are having some complications now...
Actually you can bet all the IPSPs are having some complications.. just depends on whether they feel it appropriate to talk about it or not.
mryellow: I don't so much see it as a chargeback issue. In the cases so far it has been pressure from Visa exerted on banks that has caused problems.
They do know how to squeeze. However, it would take days to write out all the subtleties of banking relations. Centurion did complicated things a bit with his CB post (not surprisingly so, those are some atypical circumstances).. but that was more about his associated frustration then the notice at hand..
Centurion: they say on AVN that basically "ain't no one running the office cuz we're all here at the show!"
You're taking quite a artistic license there as we left quite a few employees at home (some of which we had originally planned to send along).
Centurion: I can't get anything out of them other than this "action will last indefinitely."
hahah. Did you send a message [if you do not reply in 30 seconds you admit that this "action will last indefinitely"?] We can assure you it won't, but feel free to send more fun messages to pass the time.
Round two tomorrow if it's necessary.
