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Originally Posted by DavieVegas
Times have changed Paul. I am talking about quality traffic here. High CTR. I have been in the traffic realm for over 10 years. Viral successful sites don't need many ads. They can get away with the ad income. Like efukt for example. One post makes the owner a couple grand from sales depending on the sponsor. Talk about amazing viral traffic/bookmarkers. Buying quality traffic has tripled because site owners know how hard it is to come by.
Put it this way, I can count on one hand how many tubes have enough traffic that is worth submitting too. I have tested it all. The rest is trash. Thats not alarming to you? SALES are pretty much dead for most because unless you bought out the competition like mindgeek did, you need to hope and pray your content is something no ones seen or your marketing is stellar. This does NOT include SEO. SEO we know is gold but impossible to rely on. Plenty of good content out there BUT only works if you have the organic traffic.
Quality traffic is very hard to come by now a days that is not organic/seo. You can get crap traffic from brokers all day long but it wont grow your site in any way. No idea why people use brokers unless they are buying to make money with ads/webcams/dating only. What is the point of growing your sites traffic with no income coming in and hoping you make sales? I have plenty friends who tried to rely only on sales for 1 year and they came to reality that they cant make any money that way anymore. These guys have over 200k uniques a day and growing.
Its just different practices. I don't have any problem with clicking on a popunder to close it. The problems I have are the loud obnoxious ads of chicks moaning loud or ads that I cant seem to close once I hit Exit. My point is, everyones practices are different but quality traffic is STILL king and there is not much of it unless your site has viral success.
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Quality traffic!!!!
There's no such thing. If you throw Quality Traffic at shit, it will become shit traffic. If you throw shit traffic at Quality products it will become Quality traffic.
That's a broad statement, think of it like this. Surfers have to have bought a device to surf on, so they spend money. The problem is getting them to spend on the product you want to offer them. In the porn world consumers had to buy, now they are better off not buying and whatever we do it's moving more and more to the free options.
Tubes have to have traffic that buys to survive. Even at $3 per 1,000 someone has to buy, they just don't buy what you offer. The problem is they are not buying because in their opinion it's a shit product being offered.
The problem is simple. We sell a product that's required for 20 minutes, then it's put away in a draw, or the page is closed, and the user goes back to what they're doing. The exceptions are very small. Even with webcams how many men stay on their for hours jerking off? The "whales" want relationships not a jerk off.
Build a site that's good enough and it will convert that bad traffic you complain about from Tubes. Others have done it. Pornhub, Xhamster and the like cost money to run. They are KINGS in the business because they have turned Quality Traffic into shit traffic by replacing the need to buy.
Where once 9 out of 10 porn consumers bought porn, we now have 1 out of 35,000 buying porn. Because a jerk off is now a free product. And "Quality Traffic" is only created by having something they want to buy. Which is why everyone pinned their future on HD, then 3D and now VR. Same product just praying to big to give away for free.