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Originally Posted by crockett
You have no clue what real freedom is.. You think changing the people who rule you is freedom. I think doing what I want as long as it doesn't harm someone else is freedom..
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Uhm, I'm an anarchist -- so, no, I don't think changing rulers is freedom. Anarchy is "without rulers".
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Originally Posted by crockett
The problem with your idea of sucession being freedom is not everyone agreed to go meaning they are forcing people to leave who do not want to leave.
It's not like it was 80 or 90% in favor it was barely over 50%. That means over 40% of the population is being forced into this..
Where is their freedom?
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That's why I said in my original post, that applying the idea of secession consistently means individuals should be able to secede/opt out of involuntary collectives (such as governments).
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Originally Posted by crockett
You will never be free of govt and if you are there will be someone there in the anarchy who will want to rule you..
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Will *want* to, whether or not they will is another story. That's where being armed enters the picture. And once a population rejects the notion of government, there's no army on earth that can take it over and implement a government, as that requires the populace to believe in the notion of authority and government -- and along with it, taxation.
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Originally Posted by crockett
Meanwhile, my idea of freedom, is to do what I want as long as I harm no others.. That's exactly what I do.. I know freedom you will never understand because you are more worried about who your leader is and when you will make your next rent/mortgage payment.. You are owned by the system and think changing your ruler equals freedom.
Your idea of freedom is being ruled by the majority.. I choose to have no ruler over my personal life.. As long as I can live my life how I choose I have freedom you will never understand.
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Again, I think you're confused here and I must have been confused about you. And yes, what you're describing is known as the non-aggression principle, a libertarian/voluntaryist/anarchist principle. I agree with that.
But I'm all for allowing Texans to secede. While it's going from a macro level of control to a slightly lesser scale (going from federal to state-sized government), it's still a reduction of control, similar to what Brexit did.