Originally Posted by JenySmith

God man you watch too much CNN!
The war in Ukraine is between Ukrainian rebells and government forces. It's funny to hear Ukrainian politics saying there are russian army fighting against them )) Ukraning army doesn't even have money to buy camouflage or to give food to their soldiers. There are two great armies in the world - Russian and American. No chances Ukrainian army to be close to those big ones. And no chance it could resist more than 2 days against one of them.

Ukraine already shot down civilian plane back in 2001. They also had their jets in the air in that area at that day. So your fact breaks in peaces.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siberi...es_Flight_1812

There wasn't any evidence of rebels using BUK missile tank before. And the theory about russians had given BUK to rebels and taken it back right after the plane was hit pretty weird.

please spend 5 mins and read this:
Who Is Committed to Fully Investigate the MH17 Tragedy? The Almaz-Antey Investigation vs. the Dutch Safety Board | Global Research - Centre for Research on Globalization
at least you'll get independent point of view.