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Mutt · 09-12-2015, 02:48 PM

I'm all for getting right out of the Middle East's business, they are as backwards as they were a hundred years ago if not a thousand years ago. Were it not for oil we'd have never been much interested in it, we didn't create their problems, but we sure do exacerbate them. There are no good guys over there, just some worse than others. The mass of people even in the oil rich countries are kept poor and uneducated.

They need us to buy their oil as much or more than we need their oil. If we have to suffer some oil boycotts and higher oil prices so be it - it will just make us push harder and faster to switch what we can to alternative energy sources. We export a lot of this new oil that's been found in the US, it's 'light, sweet' oil whatever that means and all our oil refineries are set up to refine the heavy crude oil. I'm sure with a fraction of the trillions we have spent in warring in the Middle East we could build new modern refineries to turn the light sweet oil into gas and other petroleum products.

As for the Israel question, that land was desolate for hundreds of years, of no importance to Arabs or Jews before 1900. It became important to Arabs only when Jews began returning there and when Israel was founded. Israel has a right to exist and a Palestinian state has a right to exist. The Jews in Palestine had agreed to a UN partition plan that was fair, if accepted by the Arabs there'd have been two states since 1947. The Arabs just refuse to recognize Israel's right to exist and continuously claim they will wipe Israel off the map. And there's no reason on this earth why Israel shouldn't exist there other than pure hate from the Arab side. I'd continue to help Israel financially to defend its right to exist.

09-12-2015, 02:48 PM
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	I'm all for getting right out of the Middle East's business, they are as backwards as they were a hundred years ago if not a thousand years ago. Were it not for oil we'd have never been much interested in it, we didn't create their problems, but we sure do exacerbate them. There are no good guys over there, just some worse than others. The mass of people even in the oil rich countries are kept poor and uneducated. They need us to buy their oil as much or more than we need their oil. If we have to suffer some oil boycotts and higher oil prices so be it - it will just make us push harder and faster to switch what we can to alternative energy sources. We export a lot of this new oil that's been found in the US, it's 'light, sweet' oil whatever that means and all our oil refineries are set up to refine the heavy crude oil. I'm sure with a fraction of the trillions we have spent in warring in the Middle East we could build new modern refineries to turn the light sweet oil into gas and other petroleum products. As for the Israel question, that land was desolate for hundreds of years, of no importance to Arabs or Jews before 1900. It became important to Arabs only when Jews began returning there and when Israel was founded. Israel has a right to exist and a Palestinian state has a right to exist. The Jews in Palestine had agreed to a UN partition plan that was fair, if accepted by the Arabs there'd have been two states since 1947. The Arabs just refuse to recognize Israel's right to exist and continuously claim they will wipe Israel off the map. And there's no reason on this earth why Israel shouldn't exist there other than pure hate from the Arab side. I'd continue to help Israel financially to defend its right to exist. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!