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Old 07-13-2015, 07:58 AM  
Barry-xlovecam
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Originally Posted by Paul Markham View Post
The pre recorded porn business with it's models, studios and sites. Need to not have their product given away on sites that sell ads.

You're arguing for your side of the business, ruining the other side. Which is fine. You'll not get sympathy from those who rely on prerecorded porn sales.
I never let my customers have copies of the content -- case closed. Lock the fuckin' door! And I am not looking for sympathy -- pass the crying towel ... I am looking for customers were they are NOW not 10 years ago.

We advertise where the traffic is. If every tube-enemy of yours was closed I would advertise were the traffic is.

Don't take it ''personal.'' You can have your ''agenda'' but when you need 200M visitors a day (98.00+% of bulk ads bounce) so 182,000 of the 200,000 tube site users are crap -- they are just buying FREE today -- you are not losing anything but your sanity -- those surfers would not buy a paysite's content anyway.

I don't have an agenda -- you go where the traffic is. Where else can I get the 18,000 visitors a day? Tell me I AM LISTENING (chirp-chirp). Move the traffic and I will buy it there NO PROBLEM.

The best traffic, and I pay a lot for it, is from adwords followed by the ad networks' non-tube offerings. Tubes are 1:50,000 new conversions or worse -- so 49,000 were useless POS anyway.

If the ad target's ad blocker didn't hide the ad and I paid for the click? -- that was the subject of this thread -- STICK TO IT. So, if you want to complain about the $2,000 you spent last month and how the ad-blocker affected you by all means go ahead and bitch you have paid and have the right to bitch ... You can't, you are not an active player anymore, for lots of reasons, including your bad health (happens to us all at some point Paul).

So, spare me the crying towel over tubes and the pay-sites demise. It was the perfect storm and IMHO: Bailing water with a leaky bucket will not keep the Porn-ship afloat forever. Hate the message if you want but that is the reality.

Someone start a pornflix platform that is not early VOD bullshit -- like $5.99/mo unlimited and get traffic that is qualified and sell ads -- even a 'hulu' like service free and subscription model with ads. I would love to buy some ad referral from visitors with payment options -- not 98.00+% deadbeat bounces. A new innovation in traffic generation is welcome. Again and again: If the traffic is there that benefits us we will buy it.

My competitors are not concerned when they buy ads to their websites in adwords using our trademark names. We could litigate like ... isn't that trademark theft?



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