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JSWENSON · 06-16-2015, 12:28 AM

If you read the profiles there you will see girl after girl after girl posting stuff like "If you use my pictures, videos or webcam stream without my permission you will be reported!!!!" I also often see them complaining on sites like reddit that they found their image being used "without permission" on website x or y and they always link to a site that is, get this, promoting them on Chaturbate!

As if that's not bad enough now I see some have a big fat DMCA logo that opens up with the chatroom. Whether or not this is enforced by Chaturbate is irrelevant, by letting the models think they have this kind of control over their content it only creates grief when they inevitably stumble across their pics or live feed on a white label site.

I am positive it is in the Chaturbate TOS they agree to that their content will be used on affiliate sites but nobody wants to deal with pissed off camgirls on social media sites.

A non confrontational person would simply talk to these girls and explain what is going on before using their content. Go ahead and try that one day though! 99.9% of them immediately think that you are trying to scam them somehow or that you want to "make money off of their stuff" which is a resounding DUH.

The entire business model revolves around affiliates sending traffic to cam models and the tools provided allow us to host streaming cam shows of these girls on whatever site we want.

Wouldn't it make much more sense to make this situation clear on an information page and direct all cam models that cry about it to that page to read up on how the traffic they profit off of is generated? Then affiliates and Chaturbate support could drop a link and leave it be instead of giving these people the idea that we are doing something wrong by embedding their cam room, etc.

Giving them the option to disallow outside promotion would be fine, and I know they can deny being shown on affiliated sites. The ones that don't pay attention still complain / cause trouble and it's rather silly. If they opted out they should get no promotion support and a big banner above their cam (on their end) that tells them why they are outperformed by the less dense.

Semi mild rant here but this has been going on since the Clickcash days and it's ridiculous in every way.

06-16-2015, 12:28 AM
JSWENSON So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 3,153	Discussion - Why do sites like Chaturbate allow models to think they control their content? If you read the profiles there you will see girl after girl after girl posting stuff like "If you use my pictures, videos or webcam stream without my permission you will be reported!!!!" I also often see them complaining on sites like reddit that they found their image being used "without permission" on website x or y and they always link to a site that is, get this, promoting them on Chaturbate! As if that's not bad enough now I see some have a big fat DMCA logo that opens up with the chatroom. Whether or not this is enforced by Chaturbate is irrelevant, by letting the models think they have this kind of control over their content it only creates grief when they inevitably stumble across their pics or live feed on a white label site. I am positive it is in the Chaturbate TOS they agree to that their content will be used on affiliate sites but nobody wants to deal with pissed off camgirls on social media sites. A non confrontational person would simply talk to these girls and explain what is going on before using their content. Go ahead and try that one day though! 99.9% of them immediately think that you are trying to scam them somehow or that you want to "make money off of their stuff" which is a resounding DUH. The entire business model revolves around affiliates sending traffic to cam models and the tools provided allow us to host streaming cam shows of these girls on whatever site we want. Wouldn't it make much more sense to make this situation clear on an information page and direct all cam models that cry about it to that page to read up on how the traffic they profit off of is generated? Then affiliates and Chaturbate support could drop a link and leave it be instead of giving these people the idea that we are doing something wrong by embedding their cam room, etc. Giving them the option to disallow outside promotion would be fine, and I know they can deny being shown on affiliated sites. The ones that don't pay attention still complain / cause trouble and it's rather silly. If they opted out they should get no promotion support and a big banner above their cam (on their end) that tells them why they are outperformed by the less dense. Semi mild rant here but this has been going on since the Clickcash days and it's ridiculous in every way.