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Old 05-08-2015, 12:53 PM  
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Originally Posted by klinton View Post
I'm surprised that you have to ask about it. reasons are obvious - to present Russians as "monsters", to simplify imposing sanctions on Russia, to increase support for "opressed" Ukraine and so on.
why I dont say that Ukrainians did it **directly**, I see these potential reasons and motivations without problem...
what is really funny is the fact that Dutch government need almost one year already to simply check blackboxes...which can lead to the other conclusion - potential results are not comfortable for two sides, Russian backed separatists and Ukrainian government.
like for example: 10 km before MH the other, military jet was flying and separatists shoot MH by mistake....or other reasons
i don't even argue over this bullshit anymore - there is no indication that anything else happened as that those idiot separatists shot it down - like they posted first and then quickly deleted.

then you have Strelkov/Girkin/whatever giving interviews how he was involved

Russia's Igor Strelkov: I Am Responsible for War in Eastern Ukraine | News | The Moscow Times

and even Putin saying how russian troops were involved (unlike some GFY posters claiming anyone can buy a uniform in a shop - haha)

it doesn't matter anymore, if the plan was to bring cold war back it was successful
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