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Old 03-06-2015, 04:43 AM  
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There's tons of new US start ups proving that you can manufacture within the US. Steve Jobs said it was impossible because Apple is a greedy company run by greedy people. You can manufacture them in the US, but then the executives are only making millions instead of billions. That's why they continue to outsource. It's more profitable for the people at the top to do so.
apple was a start up company too back in the day...its not about steve jobbs being greedy its about business and staying globally competitive...

startups develop and will need financing...to have an impact on the global market they need MAJOR financing...billions and billions of $$$$ need to be poured in to the system to keep up with samsung

it all comes back to the private investors and banks...has nothing to do with steve jobbs and his greed...private investors and banks will invest in samsung because it now has an unfair advantage over US domestic apple plain and simple: cheap as fuck labour...

let me explain even further: if a company in the USA does something altruistic, for example NOT cut its workers salaries (just an example) it will actually reflect negatively on its share price, because investors want a good investment for their pocket and not for their country...if company x moves to china and company y does not, well you do not have to be a genius investor to figure out what company has more chance of bringing you profit as an investor...

startups are inherently doomed in the USA...its ok when its a small company...and a non significant product to the market like a selfie stick...but the moment it wishes to grow in to a global company it suffers from the same cancer that all US companies suffer from: speculative investment of the market and not "humanitarian investment"...



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oh really ? so why US is one of the most innovative countries in the world and it owns all major IT companies , and there are 100's if not 1000's more startups growing there every month/ year ?
come on.......
it would be hard to be a failure with the money you print out of thin air and suicide net sweat shop production in china...I am not arguing the USA is not "successful"...you guys are giants...this is what I really believe no sarcasm...but your "success" has little to do with hard work and more to do with exporting your inflation abroad and underhand tactics and making tons of money for the very very few...

the USA is a great country for 10% of americans it really really is...
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