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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd
All I can say is this: If you wanted to start a paysite in 2015 and compete with the top paysites out there, and had enough of a budget, you could do so. But that isn't saying much. Why?
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You make it sound like if you paid enough, you could do anything. theres only so many places to put money towards in marketing, its not as if a site with 500k can do a whole ton more than somebody with 300k, they can shoot more and extend the life longer, but in terms of marketing, how many places are there to really put that much money towards in adult?
Why do you think most adult companies in similar markets have been around the same size? THeres only sooo many paying subscribers out there, theres only so many marketing avenues, theres only so many available ad spots.
There is a certain level of investment that is required to enter hardcore to compete with the big guys, then there are people who want a bigger cushion and to shoot more scenes, or want to increase revenues 50 percent, so they spend another 500k. but the grand scheem of things, they are still all in the same ballpark
It sounds as if people in this thread are saying 100k can get you 500 members, 500k can get you 10,000 members and a million can get you 50,000 members
Thats not the way it is though, you can spend a fortune more , doesn't mean the results improve a ton. Sometimes to get to a certain level is easy, and to get past that, costs a fortune.
That is the case in adult. So when you say, whats the budget, i say 200k-million because its not even that different to be honest.
These guys with a million aint going to be 5x bigger than the guy who spends 200k. Sometimes people also spend more money to make up for lack of marketing knowledge, or like i said before, to improve 10-150 percent
With all that said, i dont think any of the big sites are worlds apart and giving an estimation of member bases isn't as hard as you guys think, not for people who have ANY inside knowledge, whether thats from working for a company or having your own in the same market. Which is what he stated he was seeking information from. Though i do think with enough research, even a person who isn't involved , could give a rough estimate of member bases based on public traffic information, tube exposure, google trends, torrent site download totals , using a rough estimate of conversion ratio, etc