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Gemini · 07-13-2003, 07:09 AM

Please obey the GFY board rules and stay focossed (sic)on the topic.

3. Anything goes, except do not post people's personal information, or attack people personally, stick to the issues. Also don't post links to illegal sites.

The issue in question IS being addressed in most posts, it's you don't have a CLUE to what YOU have decided is right or wrong. Get an Attorney nitwit and learn from someone that KNOWS and is UNbiased by delusions of things he perceives as truths from God only knows where.

I wish to get a handle on this "fair use" stuff ...

It's called, pay an attorney? YOU aren't educated in the legal area to make decisions
as to what is or isn't "fair use"

Will GFY allow an actual discussion thread of "Fair Use" to take place?

You expect GFY members to quote you chapter and verse pertaining to LEGAL advice? I'm trained in Architecture, I'm a certified machinist AND a welder, not the law. Not many here are lawyers and the lawyers won't deal with you for free. If you think otherwise, you are making yourself out to be more of a fool than I thought to begin with.

Nothing against a Paysite owner, but they aren't someone to get legal advice from. They could give you ideas, but in your particular case and site, do theyhave ANY experience in that area? Doubtful. AND you are dealing with mostly Americans, so what would they know of Canadian laws? That would like asking a TGP owner how a newsgroup is affected by laws.

The above areas were used for examples, not saying IF one of the above does or doesn't know about the things mentioned. Point being, you want to ask the carpenters how to BUILD the house and they build it from a plan from a TRAINED professional. Does that make ANY sense at all to you?

Also, on the "magazine" angle, I believe there are LAWS concerning HOW you can be a legal magazine, whether its online or hardcopy. But there it is again, an attorney would have to answer that. I *do* know that 'fair use' only pertains to RECOGNIZED publications. No doubt, being at least an incorporation and who knows what else. I can tell you how much weight will sit on a certain sized joist, but not the legal answers to what is a recognized rag.

On the photo use?? Ummm sponsors grant you license to use the content to SELL, **NOT** to teach with. Oops, yet another technicality that you break. No where have I seen in a sponsors TOS that they grant you free use of content however you want. So the 2257 is a DEAD issue. I seriously doubt you could even buy content now, any content seller would be foolish indeed to open themselves up to a site such as yours. Most agreements DO however reserve the right to rescind the license to ANYone for misuse, and Oops, YOU don't dictate what the acceptable uses are.

07-13-2003, 07:09 AM
Gemini Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: o-HI-o Posts: 7,183	Please obey the GFY board rules and stay focossed (sic)on the topic. 3. Anything goes, except do not post people's personal information, or attack people personally, stick to the issues. Also don't post links to illegal sites. The issue in question IS being addressed in most posts, it's you don't have a CLUE to what YOU have decided is right or wrong. Get an Attorney nitwit and learn from someone that KNOWS and is UNbiased by delusions of things he perceives as truths from God only knows where. I wish to get a handle on this "fair use" stuff ... It's called, pay an attorney? YOU aren't educated in the legal area to make decisions as to what is or isn't "fair use" Will GFY allow an actual discussion thread of "Fair Use" to take place? You expect GFY members to quote you chapter and verse pertaining to LEGAL advice? I'm trained in Architecture, I'm a certified machinist AND a welder, not the law. Not many here are lawyers and the lawyers won't deal with you for free. If you think otherwise, you are making yourself out to be more of a fool than I thought to begin with. Nothing against a Paysite owner, but they aren't someone to get legal advice from. They could give you ideas, but in your particular case and site, do theyhave ANY experience in that area? Doubtful. AND you are dealing with mostly Americans, so what would they know of Canadian laws? That would like asking a TGP owner how a newsgroup is affected by laws. The above areas were used for examples, not saying IF one of the above does or doesn't know about the things mentioned. Point being, you want to ask the carpenters how to BUILD the house and they build it from a plan from a TRAINED professional. Does that make ANY sense at all to you? Also, on the "magazine" angle, I believe there are LAWS concerning HOW you can be a legal magazine, whether its online or hardcopy. But there it is again, an attorney would have to answer that. I do know that 'fair use' only pertains to RECOGNIZED publications. No doubt, being at least an incorporation and who knows what else. I can tell you how much weight will sit on a certain sized joist, but not the legal answers to what is a recognized rag. On the photo use?? Ummm sponsors grant you license to use the content to SELL, NOT to teach with. Oops, yet another technicality that you break. No where have I seen in a sponsors TOS that they grant you free use of content however you want. So the 2257 is a DEAD issue. I seriously doubt you could even buy content now, any content seller would be foolish indeed to open themselves up to a site such as yours. Most agreements DO however reserve the right to rescind the license to ANYone for misuse, and Oops, YOU don't dictate what the acceptable uses are. __________________ <center><a target="_blank" href="http://dev.datedollars.com/index.php?s=signup&aid=535&cfg=aac"><img border="0" src="http://216.130.172.224/gfy/gsig.gif" width="490" height="100"></a><br><a href="http://dev.datedollars.com/index.php?s=signup&aid=535&cfg=aac" target="_blank"><b><font face="Arial"><font color="#FF99FF"> Buy me away from Slavedriver Smokey!<br>It's May Sig Sweeps!<font></b></center>