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Old 09-09-2014, 01:41 PM  
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Forget the military. Forgot what was done in the past. I'm talking global commerce and trade in the year 2014 and what is going to happen when it ALL stops suddenly. Most nations are dependent on other nations. That will end immediately and cause lots of problems. THAT is my main point. Many buy their power from elsewhere, along with massive food imports, medicine, and so on. All already said in posts above.

Then look at food. Will the ground still be fertile to farm or will it mostly be contaminated? I dunno. Probably depends on where you are. Water sources polluted? Radiation? Lots of variables. You can force all the manual labor onto a problem that you want, but contaminated land isn't going to grow food for people and contaminated water isn't going to help.

Not sure what you are talking about with banks. I said there won't be any. That means, you're not getting your money, which in turn means, unless you have something to sell or trade, you're ass out. Even if you could get your paper, it probably wouldn't matter anyway. At that point it probably won't be worth more than toilet paper, which you will also run out of very quickly.

What are you talking about? I'm not going to war with anyone, I'm telling you what will happen in the USA with the National Guard. Since you're obviously not American, that is the national military unit that is used to protect / help the nation. It is not going to be pleasant should they have to go into an area and keep the peace.

You are talking as if cities are going to be bombed by drones and damage will be minimal. Who is forced or not forced to rebuild is irrelevant. My point is, the world now survives on what it gets from other counties. When you're no longer getting what you need from elsewhere, you're in a world of hurt. And yes, antibiotics will be needed immediately, and if you're country doesn't make their own and are able to get them to the right places, a lot of people will die from other issues, such as a simple infection. I don't know where you are in the world, or what you make there, but not everyone makes their own drugs. In fact, most countries don't.

Sure, the US has plenty of bullets should they need them, but fuel is a limited resource, so is manpower that will be spread out over an enormous stretch of land. You can have warehouses full of weapons, but if you can't keep your vehicles fueled, in the long run, all of those weapons are of no use. But putting that to the side, the US is simply too large to police after an event like that, assuming there is anything left to police. You're talking about a nuclear war, not being hit with cluster bombs from above.

Even if the bombs are smaller these days, there is no telling how many will rain down on a city, or the secondary effects of those bombs and their radiation. Just losing the power grid permanently would be a game changer. I honestly don't even want to think of the chaos that would come after cities went black and stayed that way. Perhaps the Japanese would remain orderly, but Americans... nope. Not a chance. Especially in inner city areas. You'll probably be better off being killed in the blast than have to live in the chaos that would come after.

All of that said, I don't think anyone is dumb enough to go down that road. It would literally mean the end of everything as we know it. Back to living like the Amish, who I may add, will probably not skip a beat after the world around them is turned into rubble.
You list problems, I tell solutions. I already read the problems you listed and I replied with solutions. You have problem focused approach, I have solution. I have been in my own country's military and you even mentioning some banks is so funny. For what you would even need money? Government provides you food, shelter and water if you can't get it yourself (as best as it can). You don't have to go shopping and even if there would be some shops left, they would be confiscated. Rights for private property practically ceases to exist for a moment. Even without some nukes, during WWII were food, cars, horses, dogs, etc. "confiscated" in my country. You had food stamps with what you got food.

Also I haven't said that everything would continue as it was (if everything got nuked). So what if we live like Amish? Lucky to be even alive.

About National guard, I am not expert about US military, but last time I looked you had all sorts of military branches, like regular army, navy, marines, air force, etc. Being "pleasant" job or not is fucking irrelevant. You sound again like some little girl.

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