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Originally Posted by aka123
You really didn't get my point. Antibiotics, banks? Antibiotics are at least on the shopping list, but banks? Come on. Government starts getting for people shelter, food and water, and that point banks are irrelevant (untill much later). Governments don't buy things times like that, they take what they want and totally legally, paying is in somewhere future, if at all.
I don't know about US military, but at least around here army has stockpiles, it doesn't go shopping if we are attacked. Well, actually some weapons must be bought more if war goes on enough long time, but I guess you can manage your own citizens without cruise missiles, etc.
I am quite sure that US military has enough bullets to shoot every American, including the shooting soldiers, but as we are talking about keeping the society up, that is not the case anyways.
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Forget the military. Forgot what was done in the past. I'm talking global commerce and trade in the year 2014 and what is going to happen when it ALL stops suddenly. Most nations are dependent on other nations. That will end immediately and cause lots of problems. THAT is my main point. Many buy their power from elsewhere, along with massive food imports, medicine, and so on. All already said in posts above.
Then look at food. Will the ground still be fertile to farm or will it mostly be contaminated? I dunno. Probably depends on where you are. Water sources polluted? Radiation? Lots of variables. You can force all the manual labor onto a problem that you want, but contaminated land isn't going to grow food for people and contaminated water isn't going to help.
Not sure what you are talking about with banks. I said there won't be any. That means, you're not getting your money, which in turn means, unless you have something to sell or trade, you're ass out. Even if you could get your paper, it probably wouldn't matter anyway. At that point it probably won't be worth more than toilet paper, which you will also run out of very quickly.
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Originally Posted by aka123
You are talking like you would go war against your own country/ government. Also, communication can be kept with simple "messenger guy" system, although not the fastest one, but armies and governments have used that for the most part of humankind's history.
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What are you talking about? I'm not going to war with anyone, I'm telling you what will happen in the USA with the National Guard. Since you're obviously not American, that is the national military unit that is used to protect / help the nation. It is not going to be pleasant should they have to go into an area and keep the peace.
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The previously mentioned confiscation (eminent domain) includes labour, like you. You don't need private contractors, you just need people to do the work, whether soldiers or civilians. Army is prepared to make at least bridges, communication and roads, and under fire.
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You are talking as if cities are going to be bombed by drones and damage will be minimal. Who is forced or not forced to rebuild is irrelevant. My point is, the world now survives on what it gets from other counties. When you're no longer getting what you need from elsewhere, you're in a world of hurt. And yes, antibiotics will be needed immediately, and if you're country doesn't make their own and are able to get them to the right places, a lot of people will die from other issues, such as a simple infection. I don't know where you are in the world, or what you make there, but not everyone makes their own drugs. In fact, most countries don't.
Sure, the US has plenty of bullets should they need them, but fuel is a limited resource, so is manpower that will be spread out over an enormous stretch of land. You can have warehouses full of weapons, but if you can't keep your vehicles fueled, in the long run, all of those weapons are of no use. But putting that to the side, the US is simply too large to police after an event like that, assuming there is anything left to police. You're talking about a nuclear war, not being hit with cluster bombs from above.
Even if the bombs are smaller these days, there is no telling how many will rain down on a city, or the secondary effects of those bombs and their radiation. Just losing the power grid permanently would be a game changer. I honestly don't even want to think of the chaos that would come after cities went black and stayed that way. Perhaps the Japanese would remain orderly, but Americans... nope. Not a chance. Especially in inner city areas. You'll probably be better off being killed in the blast than have to live in the chaos that would come after.
All of that said, I don't think anyone is dumb enough to go down that road. It would literally mean the end of everything as we know it. Back to living like the Amish, who I may add, will probably not skip a beat after the world around them is turned into rubble.
