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Originally Posted by EonBlue
There is no proof that the climate needs fixing and no proven methodology for fixing it even if we had to. What an arrogant load of rubbish suggesting that humans have to "fix" something that has been occurring naturally for billions of years.
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But thats the thing, it hasn't been occurring for billions of years. The rise of CO2 and other greenhouse gases is very recent.
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Originally Posted by EonBlue
You always talk about "facts" but always fail to present any. Theories are not facts. Evidence in support of non-factual theories is not fact. Propaganda is not fact. Calling something a fact does not make it a fact. Stop abusing the word already.
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How is this?
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http://www.epa.gov/climatechange/sci...emissions.html
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Originally Posted by EonBlue
Wow, thanks for the lesson. I feel so informed now.
If you believe that Venus is valid for comparison to Earth then why not Mars where the CO2 concentration of the atmosphere is also 95%?
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There is a big difference. The average surface pressure on Mars is only 600 Pascals. Earth's is a little over 100,000 Pascals, or about 150 times greater than the pressure on Mars.
Mars has less than .98
mole fraction (a way of expressing the composition of a mixture with a dimensionless quantity) CO2, compared to 0.0004 on earth. The concentration of CO2 in Mars atmosphere is over 2,000 times higher than Earth. In other words, Mars is cooler because the pressure is less.
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Originally Posted by EonBlue
Venus is not a valid model for comparing to the Earth in any way shape or form. Period. It doesn't matter if it is called a "twin" or if it is similar size. All of it is completely irrelevant to the discussion of current conditions on Earth so stop trying to use CO2 on Venus as a case for cutting CO2 on Earth.
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Okee Dokee.