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Old 08-10-2014, 11:35 PM  
GregE
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Yep, and when I get sick I pay for it. You know, like a person is supposed to.

This might come as a revelation to you...insurance is NOT healthcare.
And for the first half of my adult life, I did what my parents and grandparents did before me: Paid money when I went to the doctor and the hospital.

And then the govt. got involved with HMO's back in the 1980's...which were supposed to make health care better and cheaper.

What we got was hospitals and pharmaceutical companies price-gouging the American people and making it so you can't go to the doctor at all unless you have insurance.

In the case of healthcare the old Midas commercial could be modified to say this: I paid for it before, I pay more for it now, AND I'm paying even higher costs for it later.

It seems to be a lose/lose situation.

Before ObamaCare was passed, the supporters of it said that once we all had insurance the prices would go down because there would be a bigger pool of people insured and it would stop people from skipping out on bills at hospitals.

Then after it was passed, and I say: "Wait, my insurance premium is skyrocketing...not going down", the same people say: "Insurance rates always went up, it's no big deal"

Well, if that's the case...then what was the point of all of this?
It sure does appear to me that the whole thing is just a big gift wrapped present to the big corporations that own hospitals, Big Pharma, and Big Insurance.
While I don't necessarily disagree with your overall premise, the problem is that not everyone can afford healthcare and/or health insurance. And when they can't, it's you and I (as taxpayers) who get hit with the big ass bills instead of the comparatively small ones.

The reason we're stuck with Obamacare is because everyone from Obama on down knew that congress would never agree to single payer.

Emergency Rooms were abused long before Obama came along and they'll continue to be abused until this country finally joins the rest of the First World by instituting single payer.

Think about it. Are the majority of voters in Canada, the UK, France, Germany, Japan, Australia and virtually every other civilized country on the planet really stupid, or is it just possible that the USA is behind the times on this score?
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