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Old 07-27-2014, 06:14 AM  
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You skipped part of Germany involving its army in attacking other countries which is more important than aliens you are talking about. I am really not aware that someone will attack Germany or planing to do so. And those who can will solve it with nukes. Surrender or be nuked. Simple as that. Conventional army is pretty useless in that case. Only way you can avoid this hardcore scenario is to have own nukes so other side won't take a risk. But you don't and that is idea behind my posts on this topic. Army without them is just regional power that can't do much if serious players want something from you (me,or anyone else). Hopefully, this would never happen.

Yes ,there are, once you solve most of the things by artillery, bombing from air, or simply save your effort and use nukes.

Spec ops are used in wars we are seeing in last 60 (or so),years. Those are proxy wars or wars of big players attacking helpless countries. (US on desert country like Iraq,Russia on Georgia, whole NATO on tiny Serbia, Israel on Palestinians which is basically exercise and muscle stretching,...) all of them are conflicts with complete disbalance of power. And that is what I am talking about. If you are strong enough, no one will try to attack you. Nukes are keeping that balance especially if you have small population (for example like Israel).

I am not from US. But policy of using nukes was good move from US perspective. Personally, I would save lives and demonstrate power on some remote place, but situation was specific and there were no enough nukes available in that moment. That move put US as leading military power and secured peace of millions and probably saved lives on allied and Japan side.

And of course nukes were not used , as mentioned above, those are wars when opponent is so weak that you are practically just practicing and marketing own weapons that you will sell later. Tons of money involved in "defense" industry. Bloody business that is pushing US economy.

There was no war on Crimea. How many people died there? Those people wanted to be with Russia and not with broke puppet nazi government.
What the fuck has world wars to do with German army's current purpose? Nothing.

You totally miss the political aspect. Nukes haven't been used since WWII because of political reasons. And you can answer to "Surrender or get nuked." with "No.", in most cases there will be no nukes despite of that answer. Or you can give another ultimatum "If you nuke, we will attack, terrorize, or whatever." Vendetta is no new invention as even the great all mighty nuke power USA has come to realise.

Spec ops are just soldiers and they are used where ever necessary. For example Russian doctrine involves those use againts every opponent. Those are part of the first wave.

USA has had bloody wars and no nukes were used. Korea was far from victory (about half country, half victory) and even Vietnam wasn't any success.

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