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Originally Posted by mopek1
I only listen to climatologists on global warming. Not governments, talk show hosts, think tanks, blogs, etc...
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The problem we have today is climatologists trying to predict the future based on faulty data and faulty models. We should listen to paleoclimatologists who specialize in the climate of the past. For example:
Prepare for new Ice Age now says Top Paleoclimatologist
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During a lengthy interview with Gelf Magazine, Kukla explained: "What is happening is very similar to the time 115,000 years ago, when the last glaciation started. It is difficult to comprehend, but it is really so: The last glacial was accompanied by the increase of a really averaged global mean surface temperature, alias global warming.
"What happened then was that the shifting sun warmed the tropics and cooled the Arctic and Antarctic. Because the tropics are so much larger than the poles, the area-weighted global mean temperature was increasing. But also increasing was the temperature difference between the oceans and the poles, the basic condition of polar ice growth. Believe it or not, the last glacial started with 'global warming!'"
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Adamant that humans have little to do with warming or cooling and that cooling would be a disaster of indescribable proportions, Kulka wrote to the United States Congress: "…a global deterioration of climate, by order of magnitude larger than any hitherto experienced by civilized mankind, is a very real possibility and indeed may be due very soon. The cooling has natural cause and falls within the rank of processes which produced the last Ice Age."
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Warming is much more preferable than cooling. Warming would actually help Mankind; cooling will do just the opposite.
Kukla and his colleagues warn that as the ice starts marching southward from the Arctic there will be "substantially lowered food production" and evidence will abound of "extreme weather anomalies" in both the northern and southern latitudes.
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During the last interglacial, the Eemian, it was warmer than it is today and sea level was far higher than now.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eemian
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At the peak of the Eemian, the Northern Hemisphere winters were generally warmer and wetter than now, though some areas were actually slightly cooler than today. The hippopotamus was distributed as far north as the rivers Rhine and Thames.[1] Trees grew as far north as southern Baffin Island in the Canadian Arctic Archipelago: currently, the northern limit is further south at Kuujjuaq in northern Quebec.
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Sea level at peak was probably 4 to 6m (13 to 20 feet) higher than today (references in Overpeck et al., 2006), with much of this extra water coming from Greenland but some likely to have come from Antarctica. Global mean sea surface temperatures are thought to have been higher than in the Holocene, but not by enough to explain the rise in sea level through thermal expansion alone, and so melting of polar ice caps must also have occurred.
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So everything that alarmists are crying about now has happened before, to greater extremes than now, without human influence yet we are are supposed to kneecap civilization and spend trillions of dollars trying to stop something that is going to occur naturally anyways?
It just doesn't make any sense.
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