Originally Posted by Harmon

Just because the "big players" use it doesn't mean it's the most effective. They are dealing with literally millions of join hits. Don't think for one second the people behind their join page are worth their weight in dog shit. They might make 100k, but that doesn't mean that that 100k couldn't be 150k.
Don't cross sell
let the surfer know what they are buying
be absolutely transparent and win back the trust of horny men

it's not hard.