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eipstudios · 07-22-2014, 04:21 AM

1.Russian news says the pilots jumped from the plane after take off.

2.This is the missing Malaysian flight and America plan this from the beginning

3.Did you know Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 was full of corpses when it took off from Amsterdam? Did you know that, for some darkly inexplicable reason, on July 17, MH17 moved off the standard flight path that it had taken every time before, and moved north, toward rebel-held areas outside Donetsk? Or that the dispatchers summoned the plane lower just before the crash? Or that the plane had been recently reinsured? Or that the Ukrainian army has air defense systems in the area? Or that it was the result of the Ukrainian military mistaking MH17 for Putin?s presidential plane, which looks strangely similar?

Did you know that the crash of MH17 was all part of an American conspiracy to provoke a big war with Russia?

Well, it?s all true?at least if you live in Russia, because this is the Malaysia Airlines crash story that you?d be seeing.

As the crisis surrounding the plane crash deepens and as calls for Vladimir Putin to act grow louder, it?s worth noting that they?re not really getting through to Putin?s subjects. The picture of the catastrophe that the Russian people are seeing on their television screens is very different from that on screens in much of the rest of the world, and the discrepancy does not bode well for a sane resolution to this stand-off.

Western media has been vacillating for days between calling Putin a murderer and peppering their coverage with allegedlys, telling the heart-rending tales of the victims, scrounging for anonymous leaks to link the Russians to the downed jet, and punditizing about exit ramps.

But in Russia, television?most of it owned or controlled by the Kremlin?is trying to muddy the water with various experts who insist that there is no way that an SA-11 missile system could possibly have downed a plane flying that high. And, mind you, this is not part of a larger debate of could they, or couldn?t they; this is all of Russian television and state-friendly papers pushing one line: The pro-Russian separatists we?ve been supporting all these months couldn?t have done this. Watching some of these Russian newscasts, one comes away with the impression of a desperate defense attorney scrounging for experts and angles, or a bad kid caught red-handed by the principal, trying to twist his way out of a situation in which he has no chance.

And that?s when they?re not simply peddling conspiracy theories, which have become a kind of symbiotic feedback loop between state TV and the most inventive corners of the Internet. The best of the bunch is, of course, an elaborate one: MH17 is actually MH370, that Malaysia Airlines flight that disappeared into the Indian Ocean. According to this theory, the plane didn?t disappear at all, ?it was taken to an American military base, Diego-Garcia.?

Then it was taken to Holland. On the necessary day and hour, it flew out, bound for Malaysia, but inside were not live people, but corpses. The plane was flown not by real pilots; it was on autopilot. Or take-off (a complicated procedure) was executed by live pilots, who then ejected on parachutes. Then the plane flew automatically. In the necessary spot, it was blown up, without even using a surface-to-air missile. Instead the plane was packed with a bomb, just like the CIA did on 9/11.

The theory also notes that the passports of victims at the crash site all look brand new even though there was an explosion and a fire. ?That is, the passports were tossed in [after the crash].? And, most damningly, all the victims? Facebook pages were created in one day and the media is not showing any of the victims? families, just the crash site. Though this is not true of Western media, Russian television has not featured any of this. ?There?s very little talk about the human cost of this catastrophe,? says independent television analyst Arina Borodina, formerly of the prominent Russian daily Kommersant. ?Instead we?re seeing these unbelievable versions. For example, that someone had actually been hunting for the president or that some of the locals saw parachutists coming down from a height of 30,000 feet.?

But though it may look unconvincing to us in the West, that is because we have seen and read other things that contradict it. The Russian media space has become so uniform and independent voices so cowed and marginalized that there is no counterweight and, when there?s no counterweight, if you repeat a thing often enough, it becomes the truth.

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07-22-2014, 04:21 AM
eipstudios So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Teen Land Posts: 2,001	Russian Conspiracy. All passengers on flight were already dead. 1.Russian news says the pilots jumped from the plane after take off. 2.This is the missing Malaysian flight and America plan this from the beginning 3.Did you know Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 was full of corpses when it took off from Amsterdam? Did you know that, for some darkly inexplicable reason, on July 17, MH17 moved off the standard flight path that it had taken every time before, and moved north, toward rebel-held areas outside Donetsk? Or that the dispatchers summoned the plane lower just before the crash? Or that the plane had been recently reinsured? Or that the Ukrainian army has air defense systems in the area? Or that it was the result of the Ukrainian military mistaking MH17 for Putin?s presidential plane, which looks strangely similar? Did you know that the crash of MH17 was all part of an American conspiracy to provoke a big war with Russia? Well, it?s all true?at least if you live in Russia, because this is the Malaysia Airlines crash story that you?d be seeing. As the crisis surrounding the plane crash deepens and as calls for Vladimir Putin to act grow louder, it?s worth noting that they?re not really getting through to Putin?s subjects. The picture of the catastrophe that the Russian people are seeing on their television screens is very different from that on screens in much of the rest of the world, and the discrepancy does not bode well for a sane resolution to this stand-off. Western media has been vacillating for days between calling Putin a murderer and peppering their coverage with allegedlys, telling the heart-rending tales of the victims, scrounging for anonymous leaks to link the Russians to the downed jet, and punditizing about exit ramps. But in Russia, television?most of it owned or controlled by the Kremlin?is trying to muddy the water with various experts who insist that there is no way that an SA-11 missile system could possibly have downed a plane flying that high. And, mind you, this is not part of a larger debate of could they, or couldn?t they; this is all of Russian television and state-friendly papers pushing one line: The pro-Russian separatists we?ve been supporting all these months couldn?t have done this. Watching some of these Russian newscasts, one comes away with the impression of a desperate defense attorney scrounging for experts and angles, or a bad kid caught red-handed by the principal, trying to twist his way out of a situation in which he has no chance. And that?s when they?re not simply peddling conspiracy theories, which have become a kind of symbiotic feedback loop between state TV and the most inventive corners of the Internet. The best of the bunch is, of course, an elaborate one: MH17 is actually MH370, that Malaysia Airlines flight that disappeared into the Indian Ocean. According to this theory, the plane didn?t disappear at all, ?it was taken to an American military base, Diego-Garcia.? Then it was taken to Holland. On the necessary day and hour, it flew out, bound for Malaysia, but inside were not live people, but corpses. The plane was flown not by real pilots; it was on autopilot. Or take-off (a complicated procedure) was executed by live pilots, who then ejected on parachutes. Then the plane flew automatically. In the necessary spot, it was blown up, without even using a surface-to-air missile. Instead the plane was packed with a bomb, just like the CIA did on 9/11. The theory also notes that the passports of victims at the crash site all look brand new even though there was an explosion and a fire. ?That is, the passports were tossed in [after the crash].? And, most damningly, all the victims? Facebook pages were created in one day and the media is not showing any of the victims? families, just the crash site. Though this is not true of Western media, Russian television has not featured any of this. ?There?s very little talk about the human cost of this catastrophe,? says independent television analyst Arina Borodina, formerly of the prominent Russian daily Kommersant. ?Instead we?re seeing these unbelievable versions. For example, that someone had actually been hunting for the president or that some of the locals saw parachutists coming down from a height of 30,000 feet.? But though it may look unconvincing to us in the West, that is because we have seen and read other things that contradict it. The Russian media space has become so uniform and independent voices so cowed and marginalized that there is no counterweight and, when there?s no counterweight, if you repeat a thing often enough, it becomes the truth. http://www.newrepublic.com/node/118782 http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative...f-2995572.html http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer...eady-dead.html