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Old 07-06-2014, 02:05 PM  
JesseQuinn
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Originally Posted by AdultKing View Post
I am building a portal especially for cam performers at the moment which will give them the ability to sign up, register their performer names and cam networks and then digitally sign an agreement for us to remove their content and then we'll nuke everything of theirs we find.

I'll be posting in the next few days about how to access this.

This service will be provided free provided that the Cam Model becomes an associate member of Adult IP, which will also be announced in coming days.
so associate member status on Adult IP is $250? you may have an issue getting sign-ups with that sort of 'free with a paid membership' structure; cam chicas are pretty used to fly-by-night companies coming along with the next new big idea, only to crash and burn pretty quickly. Honestly you'd prob generate more sign-ups with a pay-as-you-go system rather than an upfront yearly membership at that price.

would you consider providing the service at the $25 a year 'friend of the association' level? I ask because the chicas most affected by piracy are those who are trying to maintain their privacy. They may be young and still live at home/in uni, or still have a day job that isn't all that compatible with camming. In that way, the chicas most negatively impacted by piracy are those with the most to lose because they haven't yet started to bank at the level where they can just tell everyone to go pound sand if they're outed and get hassled about it. $250 up front may be prohibitive to some of those chicas, particularly when as a group we're pretty wary of new services, having been burned so often by crash and burn operations with big promises and no follow-through.

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I wrote a comprehensive post about cam sites caring to cam show piracy here:

https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=20149497&postcount=64

It may not represent what officially other cam sites may declare, but I am confident no one can really provide evidence for the contrary
^^^I agree with you, and when it comes to target audience I think what you wrote corresponds to what I'm saying about who really cares about/gets hurt by pirated material.

For top chicas making top dollar, a lot don't give a fuck. It doesn't hurt income, many do often perceive it as quite the opposite. Pirated fetish videos do hurt income but those tend to shared on pretty niche fetish forums so I doubt that sort of theft would be within the purview of this project?.

The most serious negative outcomes associated with piracy are chicas being outed and that has more to do with ability to protect oneself from invasions of privacy and harassment than it does with negative financial impact. Sure, beyond privacy issues some chicas take down material just on principle (and particularly when a unflattering screencap is out there somewhere) but I doubt many chicas would give $250 to a new-to-them company based on principle or vanity.

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Originally Posted by adultmobile View Post
Also you may consider supporting russian language too, that would add audience. Spanish for colombians also may help.
^^great idea, and along with a lower cost would go a long way to helping some of the more vulnerable performers protect themselves and their privacy.

@AdultKing I get that your projects are focused on the filelocker ecosystem (and no criticism here, props for pursuing your goals in that regard). That's no doubt your top priority with this new project, but I would hope you would design it in such a way that it focuses on the needs and circumstances of chicas most negatively impacted by webcam piracy. A $250 per year fee may be a significant barrier for many of the chicas who stand to benefit the most from what you could offer them.
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