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Old 07-04-2014, 10:25 PM  
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Originally Posted by Robbie View Post
Nope.

He's right.

The Sumerians in what is now Iraq were the first true civilization.

Here is a recent quote about them:
Sumerologist Samuel Noah Kramer asserts "No people has contributed more to the culture of mankind than the Sumerians" and yet it is only comparatively recently that we have built up a knowledge of the existence of this ancient culture.

They were THE most advanced civilization of their time.

I would also point out that a couple of thousand years later a group known as EGYPTIANS were the greatest civilization on Earth.

So no...make that HELL NO...they haven't been at their "height" with Islam.
Sumerians were 2,000 years before the birth of Islam. You can't compare the two, you might as well compare us today to the Romans.

The origin of the hate filled divide between Sunnis and Shi'ites was a dispute over the succession when Muhammad died. So ridiculous it makes you cry - human beings killing each other over different interpretations of a fairy tale they both believe is real.

We shouldn't be involved with their internal wars, no doubt we make things worse by taking sides when it's to our political and economic advantage. But those who think we are the cause, we didn't start the fire and if we left them alone for 100 years they'd still be killing each other and for no reason whatsoever still want Israel obliterated. Hate is a way of life there, always be needing to hate somebody and blame their problems on.

Meanwhile a small percentage of them live like kings on the trillions of dollars of oil money while the people live in ignorance and poverty. A friend who has been over there tried to tell me how large and affluent the middle class is in Saudi Arabia.
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