Well I was pretty sure that I would'nt get any answers from the big guys on my questions but here's another one for those lowering payouts by about $10/signup.
Are you still going to have popups (that we get nothing from) to steal our traffic that doesn't sign up for a site we get credited for?
I bet there will be more aggresive upselling in the members area to make up for this so I don't see how lowering payouts is the right thing to do and by $10 each! That's a little much I think.
I think paysite owners are sticking it to the webmasters and I for one will be pushing my traffic to those that either
a.) don't lower payouts at all
b.) lower the payouts in a smaller amount than $10/signup
c.) lower the payouts and get rid of those consoles that steal our hard earn, filtered traffic we send them all friggen day long.
Don't give me $10 less unless you are planning on taking a BIG cut in your profits.
I dont' build sites 16+ hours/day, buy content, buy traffic, filter traffic and send it off to your paysites so you can pop a console in front of it and get the profit from the sale yourself!
And then if they don't join through your entry console, or your site, you pop up even more shit for them to try to get any money out of them you can which in turn takes that surfer away from going back to my tgp, traffic source etc where he may find something else to signup for that I get paid for!
Pay me $30+ a signup and you can dick my traffic around and steal money outta my pocket but pay me $20 or $25 a signup and I think it's time to rethink how agressive your sales techniques that I don't get credited for are!
And then I won't even get into those recurring programs that have popups! Why do we, the webmasters who make these paysites so big, put up with this?
Why us webmasters bend over and take this everyday is beyond me. The excuse was always (if we are going to pay $35 a signup we have to do the popups every other dirty trick in the book. Bullshit if that were the case, you wouldnt' be driving fancy cars and buying your 4th vacation home!)
The bottomline is the big paysite owners will STILL be buying new toys while us little guys are struggling to pay for our one home and one, not so fancy, car!
Do I sound pissed? Yes, because I knew damn well nobody would answer my questions and that's all the answers I needed to know who's getting shafted with this new 1% chargeback ratio crap and it's not the paysite owners!
What's a 20% or so cut in profits to a huge paysite owner who has more money than he will ever need to live the high life? Oh he may have to buy a corvette instead of a viper this month? Cmon! These guys could retire on the money they have now! They don't have to stay in the biz they just want more, more, more. So screw the webmasters and keep growing your monthly income! Nice move!
I'm talking paysites in general here and if you take this personally than you are probably one who is doing us webmasters wrong!
If I wanted to make someone else rich while I had little chance of getting there myself I would work at Mcdonalds
$10 lower payout per signup don't seem like much but mutiply that by like 100, 200, 500 signups/month and see how much a webmaster can lose in this. Which is alot to some webmasters. If the paysite owners lost that a month they wouldn't even notice it was gone.
I think paysites should stop spending big money on advertising and let their affiliates do the advertising and make the profit from it. In the mainstream biz it is frowned upon when the biz outbids the affiliate for an advertising spot etc why not the adult biz also?
Stop paying thousands of dollars a month in advertising and recruiting new affiliates and maybe you wouldn't have to lower the payouts so much? Just a thought.