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Originally Posted by simon says
You cant be serious Brett. Lying to congress, Monica Lewinsky, disbarred, Somalia.
Breath in, breath out, submariner.
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Let me guess, LC again? Really stupid post BTW
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Originally Posted by Rochard
But you aren't posting the truth - at all.
You quote an article that takes the cheapest "bronze" package and compares it to expensive private plan which is like comparing apples to airplanes. Then you post an article where a woman in a small down can't find a pediatric cardiologist without giving consideration to the fact that pediatric cardiologist can't make a living in a town of 50k people. Then you post a horror story about a woman with a huge medical problem and suddenly can't be found in the system - Well that's never happened before has it?
All of these problems existed before.
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Maybe you should look at what Amelia posted about her problems finding a doctor and she lives in the middle of Los Angeles.
And they are getting worse, we were promised they would get better. you know, every family would save $2500?
You can keep your doctor
you can keep your plan
These are the rally cries from the left that pushed the American people to believe that this was a good thing and they are all lies!
http://www.heritage.org/research/rep...acare-promises
Ten Broken Obamacare Promises
Promise #1: ?If you like your health care plan, you?ll be able to keep your health care plan, period.?[2]
Reality: Millions of Americans have lost and will lose their coverage due to Obamacare.
Promise #2: ?[T]hat means that no matter how we reform health care, we will keep this promise to the American people: If you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor, period.?[6]
Reality: Many Americans might not be able to keep their current doctor without paying extra.
Promise #3: ?In an Obama administration, we?ll lower premiums by up to $2,500 for a typical family per year.?[9]
Reality: Premiums for people purchasing coverage in the individual market have significantly increased in a majority of states.
Promise #4: ?[F]or the 85 and 90 percent of Americans who already have health insurance, this thing?s already happened. And their only impact is that their insurance is stronger, better and more secure than it was before. Full stop. That?s it. They don?t have to worry about anything else.?[12]
Reality: Obamacare imposes certain new benefit mandates on those with employer-sponsored coverage?a majority of Americans.
Promise #5: ?Under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase.?[15]
Reality: Obamacare contains 18 separate tax hikes, fees, and penalties, many of which heavily impact the middle class.
Promise #6: ?I will not sign a plan that adds one dime to our deficits?either now or in the future.?[18]
Reality: Obamacare?s new spending is unsustainable.
Promise #7: ?[W]hatever ideas exist in terms of bending the cost curve and starting to reduce costs for families, businesses, and government, those elements are in this bill.?[21]
Reality: Health spending is still rising and is projected to grow at an average rate of 5.8 percent from 2012 to 2022.[22]
Promise #8: ?I will protect Medicare.?[24]
Reality: Obamacare cuts Medicare spending.
Promise #9: ?I will sign a universal health care bill into law by the end of my first term as president that will cover every American.?[27]
Reality: Millions of Americans will remain uninsured.
Promise #10: ?So this law means more choice, more competition, lower costs for millions of Americans.?[29]
Reality: Obamacare has not increased insurer competition or consumer choice.