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Originally Posted by Grapesoda
torture isn't like the old days Ma.. lot's of sleep depravation, isolation and drugs precisely because this isn't the middle ages.. ... not so much physical anymore mostly mental now... I just looked up the definition of 'torture' .... we don't use torture to get info.... say a guy gets picked up for murder, kiddy fucking or what ever... you all but hurt if they drug the guy up, see what he's been up too the last week or so?
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Lets do it to you and see how it goes...Americans have been using torture since...forever.
There's a thing called civilization.
The world you defend works like this. I hate you. I call the cops and say I saw you raping a child/committing a murder/fill_in_the_blanks. The cops come to your house, kick in the door, beat the shit out of you and drag you down to the station. 20 minutes or 24 hours later you confess to a crime you did not commit.
Terrorists are not born terrorists. People become radicalized because their friends/family/country have been going through a living hell usually caused, usually, by the terrorists putting them through it, say another country or political group. the worlds most hated countries are not hated because they dont hand out flowers and chocolate to guests.
Be careful what you agree to...it just may happen to you.
Americans rolled over for the Patriot Act in 2001/2002 and look what the NSA is doing today.