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Old 06-17-2014, 03:45 PM  
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Originally Posted by Grapesoda View Post
torture isn't like the old days Ma.. lot's of sleep depravation, isolation and drugs precisely because this isn't the middle ages.. ... not so much physical anymore mostly mental now... I just looked up the definition of 'torture' .... we don't use torture to get info.... say a guy gets picked up for murder, kiddy fucking or what ever... you all but hurt if they drug the guy up, see what he's been up too the last week or so?
you can always find a single case where everyone would agree that just a little torture would have been justified

but that's not how laws work unfortunately - innocent until proven guilty - by a court

to me, this has a higher value in general than an individual case - and this is how it is handled in almost all modern western societies
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