Originally Posted by xxxjay

We have both been around this industry long enough to know neither one of us is newbies. However, my attitude would've been quite in line with yours if you had asked me even a year ago.

Look up to who the big people are in adult now I'm talking about the Manwin's / Think Geek (or whatever there calling themselves now), they are an empire built upon one simple premise: Theft of other people's content to create a huge traffic empire that would eventually control all of the traffic and much of the business in adult. I'm sure you are familiar with these guys.

For years, I have been one of the dissenting voices against their practices and encouraged people in the industry to organize to fight the obvious problem the tubes were causing legitimate program owners, content owners, and webmasters. You see where that all got us. Never underestimate our industries inability to organize or combat an obvious problem before it's too late.

Now rather than bitch about it, I've turned to the dark side and have been effectively buying their traffic and making money off it, I'm not saying that it's the best business model, but it converts and I make all lot more money than I was before, I'm just doing it quietly now.



Never trust a person with "porn" in their name either. The fact is, I've been around this industry since 1997 and I've built three successful businesses and sold them without ripping off one single solitary webmaster, other company or business partner...look me up. With all due respect, go fuck yourself you ass-kissing newb.