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Originally Posted by Barefootsies
They openly have talked about this since 2007-2008 at the conferences. affiliate programs said they were constantly being held hostage by greedy affiliates always threatening to pull their traffic. [] made a commitment to move traffic in-house and away from some of this slavery where they were overly dependent on the affiliate traffic model. The tubes came along at the right time
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As a (cam) program I noticed this: before, lots of affiliates it was from USA, Canada, West Europe, because the "money per hour of effort" it was worth comparable to (remote, from bedroom) jobs in western countries.
In the last few years, I see less and less active affiliates from US, CA, UK etc., but I see more from countries I never noted before, such as: Georgia (the ex-ussr country, not USA state), Bangladesh, Egypt. Still there's the filipino, romanians, indians, south americans around, adult that's still worth for many, there.
Note that in the past, lots of signups it was from (between) member areas & pay user newsletters, cross site advertising often not accounted to affiliates. Cam sites also had lots of signups from cam plugins inside member areas. When member areas lacked of users, this cross-sell (no original affiliate paid in most cases) also went down.
Where the westerns (and some high profile russians) who was affiliates (tgp) or pay site owners ended? In tubes and tube/forums advertising networks. Adultking blames this often, as well as Mike South's. So what the programs do today? They Shave? I think no, this was worth before, perhaps. They buy from ad networks, and on the side, they keep lots of 3rd world affiliates happy.
In the past, when you launched a new program/site, you could rely on affiliates to launch it, in just revshare. I was around pre-2003 when you just order custom shoots in russia or ukraine to build a site, launch it and thehun etc. it was full of submissions magically, ccbill handled all, and you only cared to pay the bill of fhg server.
Now instead, the fhg hosting is cheap, but you need to buy ads to make some volume (this needs media buying skills, you did not needed if using affiliates only!), and the (mostly non-western) affiliates will contribute only a little, and find you late.
About the fact that there are other ways to make more money online than adult: there was in the past too, think at gambling affiliation, or the dot-com bubble funded naive's who paid lots of dollars per install of "internet optimizer" software (I made nice cash pre-2001 with that).
Of course there may be programs still shaving, for example think at cams revshare: if you shave just very few big whales, it is 1% or less of users you shave, but that's relevant difference like 30% of sales. That's sneaky as signups number it keeps real.