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Originally Posted by baddog
That is a pretty naive statement; you should watch more C-SPAN if you think congressional debates are made of anything substantial.
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If they didn't read the bill before they voted on it, how we did know about the death panels?
I honestly believe that if you think everyone in Congress wasn't fully aware of the bill and what was in, I think you are utterly clueless. This wasn't written up in a few hours, handed to Congress in the morning, and voted on the same afternoon. We had two years of discussions and debates, the bill was written and re-written dozens of times to appease both parties, the bill was examined by dozens of agencies inside and outside of the government, AND it was looked over in detail by the Republican party.
And at the end of the day it all came down to party lines, period. When it was Romneycare the Republicans stood firmly behind it, but now that it's a Democrat bill it's horrible and illegal - Fuck off. That's the bullshit political games.
This bill - now a law - isn't all too bad if you think about it. This law removes "pre exisiting conditions", allows young adults to stay on their parent's plan longer, and has made healthcare easier and less expensive for the people who need it the most. Did it cost some of us more - You betcha, but our healthcare insurance always goes up so that's not much of an issue. Did people have their plans canceled - you betcha, but this happens every year and it's called open enrollment.
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Originally Posted by baddog
Have you used your new policy yet?
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In fact, we have not.
The costs for our healthcare went down all across the board. We get our healthcare through my wife's work, and before in the past healthcare costs were so expensive that my wife's employer could not afford to cover all three of us so only my wife was covered. Now the overall costs have come down, plus my wife's work has new incentive to provide coverage so we now are all covered.
We have Kaiser Permanente, the same plan we've had for years.