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At the time obamacare got passed, the democrats controlled all chambers of government - the presidency, the senate, congress. So they jammed it thru.
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Sure.
And? That's not the first time that's ever happened right?
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The republicans then took congress back in the next midterm shortly thereafter and have hated obama ever since, because he didn't give a fuck about them and right when he stepped into office jammed a law thru that they hated, all in the name of his legacy - he was going to be the president that finally reformed healthcare!!!! so yes all the democrats should go to jail starting with pelosi, because they passed a law they didnt read because they voted with the party line.
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So Republicans are pissed because the other side passed a bill through while they were in control? That's not childish at all.
Legacy? His legacy isn't going to be about healthcare - it's going to be about guiding us out of the recession.
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1. Repubs have always hated obamacare.
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Yes. Because it's a Republican idea.
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2. Dems controlled all chambers of government and forced it thru. There was a debate but it didn't matter they got it to pass without needing any republican support. The public was also against it.
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That's called Democracy. The party who has control gets to pick and choose what they want.
The public was against it? Sure sure. You know, because of the death panels. The smear campaign went on for two years before it became a bill.
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4. Repubs then challenged the constitutionality of it in court while hating obama and blocking him at every turn. Obamacare is why they hate him. In first year of president, he fucked them and threw them to the curb. For everyone who blames obstructionist Republicans, but doesnt want to pin any blame on Obama, how willing would you be to negotiate with someone if the first thing they did in office was fuck you over?
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So Obamacare is bad and Romeny is fine. Why aren't they fighting Romneycare?
So they were made at Obama so they revolted? Fucking childish. The Republican party is pissed because they lost TWICE to a black man who had never accomplished anything.
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5. Now everyone hates obamacare except those who benefit from it which is less than the people who will get fucked by it.
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Seems to me the only people who hate Obamacare are the Republicans on this board.
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If you benefit from the law great - we understand why you support it. Just know your benefits came from somewhere. It didn't exist out of thin air, its because your win became other people's losses. And there are more losers than winners, and a lot of people are starting to think the government shouldnt pick winners and losers, and needs to become smaller not bigger.
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I support this because we need something and Obamacare is better than what we had.
Some people will come out ahead, others will pay more. All of us were going to more NO MATTER WHAT so that's still a win.
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this law will eventually get repealed, enjoy it while it lasts.
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I really hope so. It will prove exactly how petty the Republican party has become - The Republican party is going to spend years fighting something they created (Romneycare) that has made our healthcare better. If they do repeal this law it will be a huge loss - years and billions wasted only to start from square one all over again.