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Old 04-02-2014, 04:13 PM  
Biggy
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Originally Posted by Rochard View Post
Sure. I would imagine putting Romneycare into place at the state level would be simple. Easy to do, no huge debates at the national level, and no one spending years and all of their efforts to defeat a bill that is already a law.

Simple.



No one read the bill? Shame on them for not doing their jobs.

They debated it for a year; They dicked around on the language exact language for months. They wrote the fucking bill. They have staffs to read and understand the bill, and if not they have lobbiests to push them around.



How could they have done that. The Republican party - and the people who put it together - wanted to kill this law at all costs. They still do to this very day.



That's a cute little sound bite.

Are you honestly telling me that Congress voted on the bill without knowing what was in it? If that is the case... They should all be arrested.
At the time obamacare got passed, the democrats controlled all chambers of government - the presidency, the senate, congress. So they jammed it thru.

The republicans then took congress back in the next midterm shortly thereafter and have hated obama ever since, because he didn't give a fuck about them and right when he stepped into office jammed a law thru that they hated, all in the name of his legacy - he was going to be the president that finally reformed healthcare!!!! so yes all the democrats should go to jail starting with pelosi, because they passed a law they didnt read because they voted with the party line.

Let's recap;

1. Repubs have always hated obamacare.
2. Dems controlled all chambers of government and forced it thru. There was a debate but it didn't matter they got it to pass without needing any republican support. The public was also against it.
3. Republicans handed democrats the loss of the house / congress just after obama forced it thru. Because more people were against it then for it at the time. It was the main issue in the mid-terms, and the people voted accordingly.
4. Repubs then challenged the constitutionality of it in court while hating obama and blocking him at every turn. Obamacare is why they hate him. In first year of president, he fucked them and threw them to the curb. For everyone who blames obstructionist Republicans, but doesnt want to pin any blame on Obama, how willing would you be to negotiate with someone if the first thing they did in office was fuck you over?
5. Now everyone hates obamacare except those who benefit from it which is less than the people who will get fucked by it.

Let's see what happens in this years midterm election and let's am see what the next democratic presidential nominee says about it / supports it. We don't need to wait. Theyre expecting to lose the Senate and I don't think there is hope for the Dems to take the house. Democratic candidates are distancing themselves away from Obamacare.

If you benefit from the law great - we understand why you support it. Just know your benefits came from somewhere. It didn't exist out of thin air, its because your win became other people's losses. And there are more losers than winners, and a lot of people are starting to think the government shouldnt pick winners and losers, and needs to become smaller not bigger. this law will eventually get repealed, enjoy it while it lasts.

Last edited by Biggy; 04-02-2014 at 04:26 PM..
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